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Fri, 23 Aug 2013, 2:14am #1
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Hey guys, I haven'y posted for so long that I kinda just feel the nerve to now. So here's a little post about my new goal.
My goal now is to get a lv180 Fire and then rebirth into a Fire Knight. The same for her pet which I chose as Victoria but I also thought about a wind pet like qlaya or that ninja girl (idk her name).

2nd Goal: I also want to get my Flamebrag's eva to lv 180 as well while I'm bursting my other pet. I kinda want to prepare her for the "eventual" patch that will bring her death quest.

The idea for this post is if any of you can help me decide on certain things:
1) Should I build my Fire knight to lv 180 or 199? I feel like it would be easier to rebirth and 180 and then lvl to 100 from there, but then there is also the problem with the cloak. Lv 180 cloak is +60 while 199 is +80.

2) Should I go with Qlaya or that Ninja Girl pet as my wind pet for my Fire Knight?

3) Since my Flamebrag's Niss(Alice) is already my damage dealer pet should I have Eva be my 2nd damage dealer or be a support pet?

Just give me your thoughts and opinions on this and I appreciate any opinion given. They all matter.


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Fri, 23 Aug 2013, 3:00am #2
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1.) My thoughts: I assume that your fire knight is a melee that's why you will be rbing it at 180/199. If you're concerned on the cape speed then you should go for 199, this maybe because you're using the char for pk, but if not, then I dont see the 17 speed loss will matter. Knight job already gives you enough speed boost aside from stat bonus is the 1/6 ride bonus.
Another reason for getting to 199 is eq and pet training. If your knight is too fast for normal pet training then it'll be a good idea to stick to 180s (safe use of hammers and pestle) until you get to 199 or get your pet to 100. If you choose burst pet then it should have little problem and you can rb your fire at 180. Otherwise, if youre not to eager to rb then you can try get to 199.
2.) Here's my opinion on pets:
- Victoria - good damage dealer, no aoe, hard to train after rb if you have huge spd gap
- Qlaya - good pk choice, not a damage dealer, support, easy to burst and train after because of spd build and being a wind.
- Hayate - good damage dealer, targets 2, hard to get to 100 if youre too fast but will be relatively easy after rb
3.) I dont see eva as support, her mess is not much helpful than coma or freeze in quests. She can be a good damage dealer with an aoe skill she has although her build is not enough to match an rb pet. Also,I dont think it will help if you get 2 pets in 1 char but if you have time and resources then you should go for it.

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Fri, 23 Aug 2013, 6:20pm #3
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u know what nighty I think ur right about the pk thing. I actually saw someone with a pretty cool fire knight during 15 round challenge and thought of making one myself. But now that I think about it ur right, its only good for pk.

So then I guess that I kinda wanna make a change to Goal 1
Goal 1) I wanna try to make another damage dealer fire "melee" so should I go with a half tank build or primarily damage?
Just to let you know my Flamebrag is a fire with 348 STR and 150 CON. SO i guess he's a half tank too, but idk if I want another. What do you guys think?
oh and I think I'll just go for 180 since I don't really worry about the cape that much.


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Sat, 24 Aug 2013, 12:17am #4
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all characters need enough con so they can train(unless u are pure speed wind, or burst slave...) make it a killer with enough con to survive training and ur ready to go.


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Sun, 25 Aug 2013, 6:40pm #5
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Well I'll let u guys see the stats and then u can judge what I should do with her:
LV.144
ATK:875 STR:207
DEF:516 CON:130
MAT:230 INT:0
MDF:398 WIS:50
SPD:354 AGI:50


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Mon, 26 Aug 2013, 4:02am #6
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i think u should make the wis 42, 50 is a lil too high. if ur a quester, 4 agi is enough for a killer. the con is ok, so try to get wis to 42 and agi to 4.


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Mon, 26 Aug 2013, 4:23pm #7
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Are you trying to get a "perfect" build or your own build that'll match your team?


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Mon, 26 Aug 2013, 6:04pm #8
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Ya I guess I am trying to get her stats to fit my team but then again like I said, I wanted another damage dealer or half tank. The idea here is that I like my characters "hybrid" with standard stats for each category.
My FlameBrag has
348 STR
150 CON
0 INT
50 WIS
30 AGI

So basically the build is just like a way so that he can not only withstand atks but also survive on his own accord. I find it neccessary to keep my team alive without having to revive constantly or healing much. But I guess after seeing how other people do quests with Fires that are so unsustainable, yet still able to finish the quest I feel that I should to I guess. Like seriously my FlameBrag himself barely deals 3400 damage with his ferdivity without HF and it kinda just sucks.

But since I've never built an atk only Fire before I do need help on learning the build. Please post in the comments what you think I should do. Should I keep the fire I have right now or go for an atk only fire?


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Mon, 26 Aug 2013, 9:28pm #9
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generally, attack only fires are used as burst slaves.


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Tue, 27 Aug 2013, 2:04am #10
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If you plan using atk only fires, they will deal heavy damage but they won't be able to survive for a long time... So I'd go with something like 150-200 con and the rest str and the rest is left basic(only what you need)

str/atk only fires(as Lord said) are usually only used for burst slaves cause they suck.... I however broke that rule when I made my burst slave... I made him do quests even if that means I had to revive him a million times, it was just too fun XD

For FlameBrag, you might want to try getting him a saddle pet?


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Tue, 27 Aug 2013, 2:17am #11
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for (the lv 144 one):
that fire will generally hf another char(most likely a fire wit or her pet), with the build, shes not going to be the major damage dealer but can finish off weakened mobs.

if you are comfortable with agi then you can keep it, letheing it to 4 agi might take long now you have 50.

The suggestions of others are correct and the ideal build for pure damage dealers but like you I like my own build

you can check my chars, it might give you some ideas of what you want:
my fire killer is lv 153 rb
STR 550
CON around 130-140
INT 3 (potential lv 3)
WIS 21
AGI 66 (down from 100)

I had her as pk char but i tell you shes great in instances when 500 spd is an advantage, now im working to get her to 50 agi since most of my chars are really fast(also pets). You can say all of my chars are built like this.

What I want: deal enough damage at the same time receive least or no hits at all. If all my chars can move 1st round(team spd or not) I generally finish a lot faster (sometimes can 1-hit mobs in 1 round). Taking in consider that i have good eqs and crit weaps. So this works for me.

Your wis is fine, 42 is better but a couple of sp is not bad. mine is lower because I have a niss to heal my sp so its ideal build for me.

Like I said, your char will mostly hf someone to deal damage, you can make it your victoria, but if you want another damage dealer then the pure attack one is better.

for (rb lv 95 one)
For more damage, your build is fine but you shouldnt expect much if he's low level or on average eqs. Work on these things too and your fire can kill fast with good crit weapons and ride

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