heres some interesting things about it

=> Sheepskin = 69 (hide or Fur)
=> Goatskin = leather(49)
=> Rhinoceros Skin =51(this type includes sea shells/some tentacles/some types of tooth xD(things like ant tentacles,hard shell have this base)

=> White Fox Fur =69 (hide or fur)
=> White Rabbit Fur =69 (hide or fur)
=>Brown Fox Fur= 69
=>Cougar Fur = 69
=>Sable Fur =69

but Beast Fur(49),Wolf Fur(49) and Dinosaur Fur(49) seems leather xD

and ... many more such items with "fur" in their name have 69, so first i was thinking hide and fur are considered same

but the reason why i thought them as different things are this

"Fine Leather" = 49
"Delicate Leather" =49
"Fine Hide" = 69

heres the most confusing part
"Fine Fur" = 49 (49= number for Leather) heheh this is funny ^^ xD

currently in Hawaii shop there's "Fine Hide"(3200g each) and "Delicate Leather" (1400g each)to sell ,if they are same thing i see no reason to sell with 2 different names and prices

its more clear to me that Hide and Skin(or Leather) type are separate, but difficult to understand is that Hide and Fur seems separate(still i do have doubts if hide and fur are separate, the main problem is
"Fine Fur" = 49, if it was "Fine Fur" = 69 then there's no problem , may be its a bug in the game or xD i duno lol)

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about snow crystal,

it seems base 66
logically guessing closest class for snow crystal seems to be "Crystal" or "Magic"
but
67 = magic(things like demon jade stone are magic)
31 =Crystals

so yea tear staff and snow crystal both have 66 showing same base types
but i haven't found more items with this base yet, hence i haven't decided a name to call it

btw in database quartz and crystal are considered same
but according to melone
Quartz = 23 (silicon and glass which is made from quartz also have 23)
but crystals =31 things like pink crystal,Anthmyst seems this category

so i think quartz and crystal types needs to be separated
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but there are very strange things i noticed from melone for eg
base type or "Plastic" seems to be 18 (which is Iron) heheehe xD

Clays and petroleum systems seems to be very interesting
seems clays are like this

42 =clay
43 =red clay
45 =black clay
46 =white/yellow clay
47 =grey clay
48 =dry clay

may be this is the reason why clays are soo hard to convert from one type to other type of clay, even long time ago i noticed white and yellow clay can be converted to each other easy by compounding but i always had difficulty converting other types(atm , don't remember that i succeed converting also )

petroleum systems looks like this
59 =Crude oil
60 =Coconut oil/naphtha/heavy oil/tar
61 =oil/gasoline/kerosene/unleaded-great gasoline/diesel oil

Coconut oil/naphtha/heavy oil/tar repeatedly recycled
we get crude oil (shows a type conversion here from type 60 to 59)

recycling things like gasoline/kerosene repeatedly also gives crude oil

but i have never seen a formula to convert the given 60 types to 61 types
(i always wanted to compound diesel oil using soybean/Sesame Oil , before i thought i can get it since i get heavy oil sometimes, but above data shows heavy oil and diesel oil are 2 different types,hence it must be super rare even if someone do convert them(some type of interconverions "may" be "impossible")

type conversions
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my conclusion is that
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even though rare, it seems that it is still possible to convert one type of material to another types

(fail types like common stone(Rock=34)by mineral ore system ,steamed buns(Wheat=6) by food system,and straw mushroom(vegetable =7) seem very easy types to get converted into) but other types seems super rare

(one funny thing is, even mineral ore system can give vegetable type
for eg skeleton iron sword + vertical can give straw mushroom instead of common stone by failing xD )

im very interested in trying to understand how base types are interconverted to each other, it seems like a cool thing to research into ^^ thanx lot again for showing melone tool scott ^^)

im sorry for this long post with my poor English , it may be hard to understand sometimes due to poor english ehhehe xD

Last edited Sun, 28 Dec 2008, 5:52am by dotnet54

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