im fire lv5x

and i found it hard for me to lvling now ..

i remote at oslya and its damm slow ..

and i get my GS and started to burst~

even my horse's speed is faster thn me ..
de max exp i got is js around 1k+

i gv up , piss off~

why burst so less exp ? 1k ?

my fren said can reach up to 30k

but ..

haiz ..

so is there any suggestion to lv more fast for lv5x ?

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team up with 2 or more to do GS bursting, and use advanced remote if you wanna lvl fast overnight :)

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The horse must always faster than you. If it is so, then it is ok.

30k exp is a little too much for players lv 5x. Normal exp on 1 straw chicken for fires is between 2k and 3k exp. And sometimes over 3k exp.

If fire get between 2k and 3k exp, then water and earth will get between 6k and 9k exp.

Those exp rates are always better than training in Oslya, aren't they? Don't be disappointed if you only get between 2k and 5k exp from each mob (between lv 10 and 20). If there is a double exp event, those exp rates will be doubled.

Read more in the Goddess Training Guide. Be sure that you understand it completely. If you don't understand something, just ask me there. Then I will answer you in very details, if it is needed, then I will even add pictures for visual aids.

yes , my horse speed is ady faster than my speed ..

but i stil cant get exp like 2 or 3k ..

oways 900+ oni ..

issit cus of my teammates ?

if their horse speed is slower thn thier char , it will affected me as well rite ?

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If they are faster than Horse speed, it affects the whole team. So the answer is YES.

For the good result, you need 2 Fire users with Hot Fire and 1 Water user with Shrink. How bigger damage, how higher EXP. A water users with Shrink is a great help, because it can make your damage doubled.

Look:
4 Fire users with Hot Fire: 4x3 = 12x normal damage.
3 Fire users with Hot Fire and 1 Water user with Shrink: 3x3x2 = 18x normal damage.

That is why that the Shrink is a great help for your exp. But it is a bit unfair for wind and earth users. They also want to train in the Goddess Training. That is why we often used 2 Fire users with Hot fire and 1 Water user with Shrink in a team. That free slot is for Wind and Earth users.

2 Fire users with Hot Fire and 1 Water user with Shrink: 3x2x2 = 12x normal damage, same as 4 Fire users with Hot Fire.

simple advise for using horse as pet in bursting:
make sure tht ure atkers spd is lower than 50

take note: wind horse spd lvl 1=54(correct me if im wrong)
fire horse spd lvl 1=57-59( '' )
earth horse spd lvl 1=52 ( '' )

heavenly bursting 3 fire 1 water

my fire mage gets 10k exp per battle(not 2x exp event and im using cattle as pet)
water gets around 20-30k exp per battle(also not 2x exp event)

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Syarky wrote:

my fire mage gets 10k exp per battle(not 2x exp event and im using cattle as pet)
water gets around 20-30k exp per battle(also not 2x exp event)

Are you train on 1 mob to get those exp? Or did you train with more mobs in a battle? Repeat orders on every mob in the battle.

speed lower thn 50 ?

but its oni me who speed lower thn 50 its no use while other members can't

rite ?

+ wads your skil role ?

1. Slow Down
2. Gs
3. Kill

or wad ?

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refering to hugomka : im currently remote bursting at beetle den using 4 round technique(1 water 3 fire) which is killing 2 senior beetles. (sometime 1 senior bettle =.=)

for nomorefcuk : yes all the atker must hv spd lower than 50 in order to get perfect combo

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NoMoreFcuk wrote:

speed lower thn 50 ?

but its oni me who speed lower thn 50 its no use while other members can't

rite ?

+ wads your skil role ?



1. Slow Down
2. Gs
3. Kill


or wad ?

Actually, only fire users need to be slower than horses, but other element users than fire don't need, actually they need to be faster than horses and fire users.

Orders for fire users in 4 rounds are already in the guide:
1. Fiery Attack [pet] - buff for your horse
2. Slowdown [enemy] - debuff for wind mob
3. Hot Fire [player] - buff for yourself
4. Hagendis Hit/Fire Stone Hit/Five-star Hit [enemy/Top priority] - your strongest possible attack, use Five-star Hit if you are wearing a shadow pestle.

I added a little more into the orders here than Goddess Training Guide, but they are actually same.

Syarky wrote:

refering to hugomka : im currently remote bursting at beetle den using 4 round technique(1 water 3 fire) which is killing 2 senior beetles. (sometime 1 senior bettle =.=)

for nomorefcuk : yes all the atker must hv spd lower than 50 in order to get perfect combo

Ah I see, 2 mobs, it means 5k exp for 1 mob. Good. ^^

wads fiery attack ?

issit GS ? use GS on pet ?

den its DAMMMM hard to make all de attacker to hav de same speed rite ?

oO"

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Hugomka wrote:

4. Hagendis Hit/Fire Stone Hit/Five-star Hit [enemy/Top priority] - your strongest possible attack, use Five-star Hit if you are wearing a shadow pestle.

Fire stone hit isn't strongest single mob mage skill, it's actually fire combo beating, it may sound wrong, but my guild leader and my friends fire mages have tested this. They say on average fire combo beating does about 400more damage then fire stone.

NoMoreFcuk wrote:

wads fiery attack ?

issit GS ? use GS on pet ?

den its DAMMMM hard to make all de attacker to hav de same speed rite ?

oO"

fiery attack is a support skill for fires, it adds 2x damage to the horse, giving them more power. Attackers don't need exact speed, just all have to be below 64 speed which can be done with a variety of different weps,clothings or IM or stone weights, basicly anything compounded thats listed below:

http://wlodb.com/compounds?search=&min_rank...

long handled axe, def armor and footmens helm are probably the most common - speed items you will find around cause of the realatively easy making of them.

Last edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 2:51pm by Flood

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har ?

got such skill ?

how do i get de skill ?

i oni hav slow down and hot fire as support skill currently .. =x

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well my fire sequence is :
1st:slow down
2nd:poison
3rd:hot fire

top prior: fire combo hit(im a fire mage btw) also can use hegendis hit(for fire warrior)

make sure once u reach lvl 50 u hv more than 18 wis (fiery skill need 18 wis)

take notes: full type fire warrior need to hv atleast 42 wis(its for the mess spell) :) (well atually all fire type need atleast 42 wis)XD

its not hard to set ur spd to below 60 or even 50 at lvl 50-70. u just need -spd armor(def armor) -spd glove and boots(its easy to get)
and u can get the -20 spd stone ball in culcutta by doing easy quest:)

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why so troublesome ?

js make it

1. slow down
2. hot fire
3 . [best skill to kill]

den 2nd monster

1. [just skill using skil]

?

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well i see you are using 3 round bursting which is not bad either:)

3 round sequence is:

1st:slow down/poison
2nd:hot fire
3rd:atk skill (fire combo hit/hegendis hit/five-star hit(if u using shadow pestle))

4rd: atk skill the same as 3rd

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Flood wrote:

Fire stone hit isn't strongest single mob mage skill, it's actually fire combo beating, it may sound wrong, but my guild leader and my friends fire mages have tested this. They say on average fire combo beating does about 400more damage then fire stone.

Interesting, thank you for this information. I will change the Goddess Skill Guide directly. I will research it later too.

Flood wrote:

fiery attack is a support skill for fires, it adds 2x damage to the horse, giving them more power. Attackers don't need exact speed, just all have to be below 64 speed which can be done with a variety of different weps,clothings or IM or stone weights, basicly anything compounded thats listed below:

Fiery Attack gives the power to your horse to make 1,5x damage, not 2x damage...

Fiery Attack: 1,5x
Fire Attack: 2x
Hot Fire: 3x

Their speed must below than the level 1 pet's speed. The level 1 red horse's speed is 57 or 59. So they need to be slower than the speed 57.

Syarky wrote:

well my fire sequence is :
1st:slow down
2nd:poison
3rd:hot fire

top prior: fire combo hit(im a fire mage btw) also can use hegendis hit(for fire warrior)

I have tested this way, but it doesnt work sometimes. It is not 100% trustworthy as Fiery Attack. Actually I can't understand this orders. One day it works perfectly and other day, with another team, it doesn't work anymore. Even my slowdown and poison spell and also other's slowdown and poison spell are maxed. So strange, I will research it more.

Syarky wrote:

3 round sequence is:

1st:slow down/poison
2nd:hot fire
3rd:atk skill (fire combo hit/hegendis hit/five-star hit(if u using shadow pestle))

4rd: atk skill the same as 3rd

Don't use poison spell in the first round, otherwise the mob will be hurting by the poison and will, die before you can kill it. Very unwisely.

If you train manually, you can just repeat the orders on every other mob in the battle, for example:

Mob 1:
1. slowdown
2. hot fire
3. [strongest attack]

Mob 2:
1. slowdown
2. hot fire
3. [strongest attack]

Mob 3:
1. slowdown
2. hot fire
3. [strongest attack]

et cetera.

Last edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 9:09pm by Hugomka

hugomka

i get wad u mean ..

by why dun u~

mob 1:

1. slowdown
2. hot fire
3. [strongest skil]

mob:

1. [strongest skil]

??

save sp~

cus on de 2nd mob , de hot fire stils available~ =)

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30k+ EXP comes from the mob vs pet and mob vs player average levels.

Say you're fighting beetles. their average level is about 24. If you have a pet level 1 and your level is 54+ you would get a significantly higher amount of Experience than if your pet was level 6-10. While solo bursting I usually hunt for a new pet once it reaches level 10-11.

1 beetle with level 1 pet and decent combo gets me about 2k exp.
1 beetle with level 10 pet and decent combo gets me about 500 exp.

My main fire character is level 68.

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well ive been bursting my fire since lvl 34 up to 10x now and the 4 sequence work fine with me:) guarantee 100% work:)

Fire sequence:
1:slow down
2:poison
3:hot fire

top prior: fire combo hit/hegendis hit

i think the problem is the spd in the team. maybe somebody in the team are not being honest about their spd (its a quite a big issue =.=')

btw the poison skill ive been using always missed on the mobs XD idk why XD
the poison only work when the 1st mob been accidentally countered kill by the teammate in 1st round which automatically makes the fire attacker cast the poison to the 2nd mobs and worked(dont know how =.=')

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but ..

i dunhav poison .. =x

i oni hav slow down as my support skill ..

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well u should get the skill 1st:)

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issit a MUST ? oO"

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fire should learn atleast until mess spell(thats 42 wis)

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LOLS~ ==

waste a lot of points ==

place those points on str at least wil provide higher damage .. ^^

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Best thing to do if you want to level quickly is get 3 fire types with low speed and high attack power and one water element that's faster than the fire types, all with GS skill and low level horses.

Fire uses
1st round: slowdown
2nd round: Hot Fire (self)
3rd round: Attack with Hagendis Hit

Water uses
1st round: Shrink
2nd round: Freeze
3rd round: Sleep

Might I also suggest that those fire types have weapons with a critical chance :)

I did some bursting earlier today. Normally the two fires I was using do about 5 or 6k damage combined to wind frogs. they both have a crit weapon though and when they crit they do 12k total combo damage with just two fire types and no shrink spell on the target! O_o . Fire got over 1.5k exp when that happened and water got over 3.1k exp.

I still need to get gs for my water character :(

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NoMoreFcuk wrote:

LOLS~ ==

waste a lot of points ==

place those points on str at least wil provide higher damage .. ^^

No, add points into WIS is not waste. Besides it is needed, otherwise you will have a low magical defence and small SPmax. If you don't need WIS, then get at least until WIS15. That is good enough for a full Fire Killer.
It costs you only 5 levels and that is not many.

hmmmpp ..

okiie , thx hugomka & art~

but its hard to find a co-operative teamates ..

most of them scuks , cheat abt thiers speeds js to get a party !!

fcuk~ waste a lot of my time bursting .. ==

thts why now i js remote at oslya rather than burst !! ==

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I completely understand you.
The Goddess Training is not very great as many players think.
A normal training with mobs is still the best, because your pets will also train with you.
Is it not great to work close with your pets?

actualy burst provides GREAT exp , but oni wif co-operative teamates ..

if not ..

cus 1 of members , whole team's exp were spoiled~

thats what i hate ..

and i rather remote at oslya ..

can get foods , make , sell .. =)

get bless packs ..

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