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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 5:01am #1
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There seems to be a mistake on the wood bell description, it says that the wood bell reduces a 2% of the production time but it actually reduces a 5% - 6% of time, somewhat around the double than the stand bell. It used to take to me around 52 minutes to make 200 big grapes with an air conditioner, 51 minutes with an air conditioner + stand bell, and 48 minutes using an air conditioner + stand bell + wood bell.

Hence it is impossible that the wood bell reduces less time than the stand bell. This makes sence considerating that the wood bell takes longer to make and require more complex materials.

Please someone verify this and correct the description if needed.

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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 7:36am #2
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Sure. Just for you, I checked the times for making 5x Big Mango (200pcs with all gardening equipment).

Big Mango x5 time:

base time 60
That's the time when all speed equip is in my inventory.

Now I'll take them out 1 or more at a time:

wood bell 59
stand bell 59
windmill 59
These 3 all save about the same amount of time. 3% is less than 2 minutes, so you can't see the difference between 2% and 3%.

wm wb 57
wm sb 57
wb sb 57
With any 2 of these, you save 4% or 5%, less than 4 minutes, so again, you can't see the difference. (Something that takes over 100 minutes would be a better example, of course.)

wm wb sb 56
With all 3, you save 4 minutes (8% is less than 5 minutes). The actual time saved will be 8%, but the interface only shows full minutes.

Having already proven they are at least near accurate, I'll add in the Air Condition just for completeness:

ac 51
Hold up! 9 minutes is 15%, not 12%! This should be 53 minutes...

ac wb 50
ac sb 50
ac wm 50
ac wm wb 48
ac wm sb 48
ac wb sb 48
ac wm wb sb 47

Now, that should be 20%, but 20% would be 12 minutes, and this is 13 minutes lower. That's 22% or 23%.

Well, if there's a description error, it's in the Air Condition. I'll have to find something that takes a REALLY long time to make, to get a finer measurement.

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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 9:11am #3
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Ret, sorry for using your idea, I just thought that if I have few minutes free I can check this :P
I took 50 lauan wood to make Big Wooden Gears. 1 wooden gear is 4 minutes, 50 is 200 minutes. Any time-cutting furniture should cut full minutes. An here are the results:
TIme of manufacture:
Base - 200 minutes - 100% - 0% time cut
With Windmill - 194 minutes - 97%% - 3% time cut
With Stand Bell - 194 minutes - 97% - 3% time cut
With Wooden Bell - 196 minutes - 98% - 2% time cut
With Air Conditioning - 170 minutes - 85% - 15% time cut!
With all - 154 minutes - 77% - 23% time cut!

This all adds up:
3%+3%+2%+15% of alone cuts = 23% of cut with all equipment. So there are no "combos" inluded. It's just the fact that Air Conditioning really shortens more than it should :)


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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 10:25am #4
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bloo777 wrote:

Ret, sorry for using your idea, I just thought that if I have few minutes free I can check this :P
I took 50 lauan wood to make Big Wooden Gears. 1 wooden gear is 4 minutes, 50 is 200 minutes. Any time-cutting furniture should cut full minutes. An here are the results:
TIme of manufacture:
Base - 200 minutes - 100% - 0% time cut
With Windmill - 194 minutes - 97%% - 3% time cut
With Stand Bell - 194 minutes - 97% - 3% time cut
With Wooden Bell - 196 minutes - 98% - 2% time cut
With Air Conditioning - 170 minutes - 85% - 15% time cut!
With all - 154 minutes - 77% - 23% time cut!

This all adds up:
3%+3%+2%+15% of alone cuts = 23% of cut with all equipment. So there are no "combos" inluded. It's just the fact that Air Conditioning really shortens more than it should :)

Thanks. I hadn't started yet, so you've saved me the trouble. That is exactly what I expected to find. Air Condition is 15%, not 12%. It should get an edit, and the others are exactly right. :)

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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 12:36pm #5
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I changed the description of the AC from 12% to 15% since we have 2 examples of the time being reduced by 15%.

Thanks for the catch guys ^^


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Fri, 09 Apr 2010, 1:48pm #6
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Woow, thanks for replying so fast and making the tests!, i will try to be more accurate and present evidence of my suspects before posting =P.
You are great guys, keep it up!

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