can i know wads de diff 3 steps remote and 4 steps remote ?

and if my team consists of 3 fire 1 water ..

3 of my fire holding clean unscrolled beast fork ..

issit ok ?

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nice guide!!

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anyway, where did all thi burst thing appear from? :) Always wondered

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azythar wrote:

anyway, where did all thi burst thing appear from? :) Always wondered

its been out since taiwan wl v2 beta to promote faster leveling and easier less tedious game play environments.

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hello everyone :)
I need help with goddess training
I have 2 accounts and my friend have 2.
We were doing everything to start good bursting, and now when we thought we finnaly ready, we didn't combo...
Elements: water, earth, 2 fires
spd: water 107, earth 103, fires 0
lvls: water 57, earth 40, fire 54, fire 50
moves: shrink, water shield, sleep, freeze ; terra, shield defense, tree bind, blocage ; slowdown, poison, hotfire, five star hit/ Fire Combo Beating
however we can't buy e. remotes so we doing manual bursting, we healing sp in tent and using vultures.
what is wrong?We sometimes combo, but not all the time, why? Fires spd 0 100%

Is it possible to do this w/o any horse? And decrease, for example your Roca's speed to the one described above to 57.

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then what shall we do if we dont have electroic control?
can we just use normal remote control?

lfanatic83 wrote:

i have a fire question. on my character whenever i use slow then poison after it always misses but poison always hits when no debuff is on them. can i not have two debuffs on at the same time?

It is very normal to see "miss" when you cast the debuff in the Goddess Training, so don't pay them so much attentions.


Reply to Osoku:
About the wind users, it is really no problem, if you dont attack, no matter in which cases. They are kinda same as an earth users. Just pure buff/debuffs. Even the wind is faster than water, then it is no problem, as long the shrink works perfectly.
If you as a wind/earth users can make the speed even low as fires then you can earn even much as fires. But it is not big deal to have 1 earth or wind in the team to make them better with only buff/debuff.
Since they are rarely in the goddess training, so they are easily getting up with higher amount of exp than fires. The fires can keep to train so long as they can.

philidor wrote:

Can I replace fiery attack with hot fire attack on the pet with the firealt? I'm building up alot of wis since some bosses know water thunder beating so SP will soon be no problem. Also my fire gets no exp from battles even from poisoning. And my wind only knows cord and shield smash and my water only knows freeze and shrink so I can't do the three round debuff.

Yeah, if you want to waste more sp in the training. Fiery attack and hot fire attack have about same amount of exp.

ŃōΜοŗĕFćŭк wrote:

can i know wads de diff 3 steps remote and 4 steps remote ?

and if my team consists of 3 fire 1 water ..

3 of my fire holding clean unscrolled beast fork ..

issit ok ?

The difference is obviously experience points. You get more exp from 4-rounds battle than 3-rounds battle.

newguy wrote:

hello everyone :)
I need help with goddess training
I have 2 accounts and my friend have 2.
We were doing everything to start good bursting, and now when we thought we finnaly ready, we didn't combo...
Elements: water, earth, 2 fires
spd: water 107, earth 103, fires 0
lvls: water 57, earth 40, fire 54, fire 50
moves: shrink, water shield, sleep, freeze ; terra, shield defense, tree bind, blocage ; slowdown, poison, hotfire, five star hit/ Fire Combo Beating
however we can't buy e. remotes so we doing manual bursting, we healing sp in tent and using vultures.
what is wrong?We sometimes combo, but not all the time, why? Fires spd 0 100%

In the first post:
"Getting no exp or little exp?
- Perhaps the assistant skills are not maxed, train them first before you start the goddess training. (tip: use non-maxed assistant skill in last round to level it up very fast)
- The combo of all fires is failed, too bad next battle better.
- The wrong set up of the electron control, check it again carefully.
- The speed messed up, maybe someone lied about the speed."

Everyone knows the combo is never 100% perfect, you can come close to 100%.
Further more, try next time to make fire's speed very close to Vultures' speed, but still below than Vultures' speed.

HomerRugliaBeoulve wrote:

Is it possible to do this w/o any horse? And decrease, for example your Roca's speed to the one described above to 57.

In the first post:
"Q: Why must it to be have a Red Horse?
A: Because this horse is fire, strong and fast. Those 3 good points made him the most useful horse for the goddess training. But another kind horses are also OK, but you will get a bit less exp than the red horse. If you are not high level enough to catch horses, then viloraptors are also a option. More information: http://wlodb.com/topics/914"

You can use other pets than Red Horse, if you want. As long as they meet good speed, power and element. The Red Horse has all of them perfectly. Probably it is too old-fashioned, hahaha.

angeliclayer12 wrote:

then what shall we do if we dont have electroic control?
can we just use normal remote control?

Simple, the debuffs and buffs are very important in the Goddess Training and they can not be used with a normal remote control.
The remote control's auto fight only remembers the last attack action and repeated that. You can not use remote control for completely battle.
But you can use remote control as aid for the manual training, but the auto-fight must be OFF. You can use it for autosupply to fill your and your pet's HP and SP up.

winds with high str are good for attacking with crit and 0 spd yet ppl dont care not all can make full burst teams

you wont get 100% combo if you are below lvl 70 i notice that after lvl 70 i alway do combos even if my roca have 109 spd weird huh

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Reply to scarletwulf

I can't help if people is selfish and think only themselves.
It is not fault of my Goddess Training Guide.
The wind and earth users are often being ignored, because they are not necessary for Goddess Training.

I know the solution for wind and earth users, but they wont get so many exp without fire and water help.

Try make a team of wind and earth users only. Be sure that they all have the lower speed than the pet's speed. Except one, you can call it the "Host". The host must have higher speed than 100.

The host's orders are exact same as the first post, it would be very great if it is a water user, because Shrink can increase the combo's successrate.

Non-hosts:
Earth: Terrafication [enemy] -> Tree Bind [enemy] -> Shield Defense [pet] -> (attack move) [enemy]
Wind: Speed up [pet] -> shield smash [enemy] -> Coma Spell [enemy] -> (attack move) [enemy]

Of course you will get lower experience points than with fire and water users, but at least you still can train in Goddess Training, so still burst experience points. And the host can be switch, if you want.
Please don't quarrel about who will be the host. To have a host means higher combo's successrate.

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Reply to solo
It is not weird, it is also in the system. Higher level, higher combo's successrate.

something i get 80k EXP!XD but is duble exp deyXD

this is a bursting guide... and a lot of infos there are wrong...

and the worst thing i read ever: "the shrink increase in combo sucess rate..."
u really dont know what you are saying... shrink is just one water debuff that make the enemy get his stats reduced: -atk, -def, -matk, -mdef in around 20%

So with shrink ur combo just will do more dmg, nothing relationed with "sucessrate"

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Man looks like u still dont understood...

Burst guide = goddess training guide...

Burst is the main name because the exp u get istoo high...
and ur guide isnt a goddess training guide, because wind doesnt use any goddess there, then the correct name is burst not goddess training...
and all characters that have a assist skill BUFF is better to use in the second round, ur water orders is completly wrong.... and...

awww and nothing, my advice to you:

Burst more before u make a guide...
ur guide isnt bad but, have lot of points that can be corrected

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This guide was posted back in October. Back in the days that V3 was just starting. Leave him be.

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Hasui,
You often have valuable information and I appreciate your contribution to the forums, but why are you so negative (and sometimes mean) about other posters?

Hugo (as well as many other members) has worked many many hours to create these guides and to help other players.

Please continue to clarify any inaccurate information you see, but please try to be kind to people who are obviously putting in a lot of work just to help others.

Does DEF only reduce damage or also affect your chance of a hit?

Happy GST'ing and Bursting,

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There are a lot of posts here, so I may have missed someone saying this exact thing.
I use, for my water, shrink in the top priority and sleep as second priority.
On the 4th round with the 1st mob, the controller will see that the mob is already shrunk, so the second priority spell is cast. On the 1st round with any additional mobs, the controller sees that the mob is not shrunk and casts shrink.
I have been doing GST for a while tonight, and when I made that switch, I noticed that the higher damage done to the 2nd mob added a small amount of EXP and with shrink being less SP than sleep, you're getting a little extra help in that aspect too.

Nice Job ^^
Just Wondering How Yah Get 40k Exp o_O
I'm A Water & Only Get 12-20k Exp x_X
I Think Sometimes 30k >.>
I Use Cows To Burst ^^ I Don't Go All The
Way To China To Get Red Horseyy But I Agree
It Gives More Exp U.U

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good job hugo !!
ur my idol !! xD!

fire=97 rb wit
fire=95 rb killer
fire=59 rb warrior
water=63 rb knight
water=103 rb seer
earth=39 rb priest
earth=156

I LOVE YOU WATERLOO

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Best Guide i have ever seen!!! :D

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when i burst ppl use speed up on me so does it damage exp?

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@ Hasui
Goddess Training is the burst training with goddess spells.
There are many variants of the burst training.

About Shrink you are correct about more damage, but it is also very obviously. And the success rate for the combo is more difficult to see.
I can be mistake, but I think Shrink helped it a bit.
Because it reduced stats like -atk, -def, -matk, -mde as you wrote.
If the mob have less defense, then it would be more chance for combo, is what I though.

@ LordDaemon
You are very smart. I know about that technique already, after all I invented that at the first place and told to some friends.
Yes, the second priority is very handy for multiple mobs.
Okay, I guess I forgot to add it into my guide.

@ katatas
Yes, the speed up is a buff, but the exp from this buff will go to the caster. And the casted one must always be the attacker with low level, so casting on the pet between level 1 to 15.
Because the buff will be useless, if the casted one is too high level.

@ Others:
Thank you for your dearest words and thanks. I am happy to hear that my guide is still useful. I wonder if this guide is old-fashioned after 2 new versions.

Your regards, Hugomka

really great guide thank you:)

@Tok Dukun.

*how about RB player training guide?
*can u show me where the nice place for RB player to train
*all i knw is sp(lv 80~90 RB ppl) persia(lv100 and above rb ppl)
*dint have money to buy TV ticket TxT ..

ok i have one question what about second priority on water what to put in remote?

benedeta wrote:

ok i have one question what about second priority on water what to put in remote?

Do not put anything in second priority. It will not help you. Four turns will do the first three turns from the "set degree" and the fourth turn from the "top priority".

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ok thank you :)