Hey rawr,
This might just be because I have a low junior alchemy lvl, but it seems I can't make a thorn suit using these formulas: http://wlodb.com/compounds?checked=yes&sear... and junior alchemy, yet primary works fine for me. I made at least 10 attempts with junior alchemy, and I know it's a +4 formula, I just don't have that much gold to test with ^^;

If possible, could you see if those formulas do work with junior alchemy?