Godlike wrote:

lol, suite yourself dude, then dont use mess. this is tips, not orders, lol, im not forcing you to use mess. lol.

r1 slowdown
r2 mess
r3 hot fiery

i think you did the set up wrong if you didnt get exp lol.
always use slowdown first turn. how do you burst anyways.

ive tested it MANY times and my fires saw 0 exp difference using slowdown-poision from slowdown-mess

this is my set up
water: shrink, WS, freeze, sleep
fire: slowdown, poision, hf, kill

my fires are all 17x now and they see 12k (lvl 15 horses triple crit of 66k)-62k (trip crit of 66k, fresh lvl 1 horses) no 2x