Which are the best pets for bursting ? :[

Best/Easiest Animal Pets?
Cows...Easiest to obtain, close to Senior Beetles, and have nice stats.
Relatively speaking, any pet can burst, as long as they are all the same type and have the same stats (spd)

What about human pets ? :D...i saw someone bursting with xaolan ...how is that posible ? :[

Xaolan isnt good..
Anyone with DEBUFF Assist skills get MORE exp than those with BUFF assist skills (Eva: Mess, Qlaya:Cord/coma idk, Shasha: freeze all have Debuff)
Dont use: Niss, Xaolan, or any others with Buff skills...

Victoria is good for bursting ? :[ ...

they only burst human pets to increase their pets level fast.
human pets can be usefull in fights. especially in pvp.

Kiarra wrote:

Victoria is good for bursting ? :[ ...

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Xaolan is harder to burst because her skill can't be set as a priority.

If you set her up to use stone wall on the third turn to an allied pet and have her priority set to defend then she should be decent to burst that way.

Sasha
Qlaya
Sam
Victoria
Xaolan
Eva

Are the human pets I know of that can be bursted.

Charlotte can burst with vanish but it is not as effective as using debuff skills.

Last edited Thu, 04 Jun 2009, 5:06am by ArtAsAHobby

Flood wrote:

use party hp and party sp set to ally. similar to this one
http://wlodb.com/files/buffpetburst.jpg
I have it set for 220, cause thats the max sp apet i'm using has at lvl 15 (the time when I repet). Leader must stand or autowalk the place you battle or she will only buff 1-3 times per burst.

Doing it leader stand/autowalk she can buff all 5 turns if she needs to (pets x3, a player whose sp is lower then xxx sp, and the first pet she buffed on turn 1.) She normally buffs 4 times every turn after the pets quit leveling after every fight lol.

Is it possible for you to tell me, please, how much exp the fires get? I didn't take Victoria yet but I tried with two Shasha. It's very possible that I screwed up the setup :) but they were receiving 3k-4k exp, the fires about 3k. Both Shasha were "fresh", fires lvl 130 and 88. Thank you in advance

you should only burst one human pet at a time :)

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If i burst with victoria...she should use fiery attack on all pets or only on herself?

Well depends on your element:). Roca is perfect for Water, Niss is for Fire... and many more. And for others, horse, which is impractical. Discarding them after level 9 or 10.

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Xd...well....with victoria i should use this
pet :
def
def
fiery attack on herself
attack
player:
slowdown
poisoning
gs
attack (im fire)
?

MonicaB wrote:

Is it possible for you to tell me, please, how much exp the fires get? I didn't take Victoria yet but I tried with two Shasha. It's very possible that I screwed up the setup :) but they were receiving 3k-4k exp, the fires about 3k. Both Shasha were "fresh", fires lvl 130 and 88. Thank you in advance

My fires have all been 18x/(8x rb) for over 4 months now, Right now I have been training buff and debuff pets, and friends chars to 18x, but my average damage is around 54k and the waters when I train 3 fire, 1 water normally sees about 45-80k no 2x exp, and fires normally get 1/3 OR 2/3 the exp of the waters. (mattering the setup of how many debuffs they throw)

Last edited Sat, 06 Jun 2009, 6:47pm by Flood

Thank you Flood.

Any one can tell me how to build an earth support ( WIS) please!!!

can xoulan bursting?

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yeah @|
she can ^-^
but is hard with her very low sp -P

can i know how she bursting..???
(Without E-Remote)

as i know..
1st-def
2nd-stone wall
3rd-def

Top -atk
bottom - atk

is it rite?? i just get 1k.. but need to get her to 0 spd..

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ok, saying right now I skipped about 3/4 of the posts before me so I could post so if I'm repeating what someone said, oh well...

:D through extensive research in bursting pets I've found 2 that work best overall are:

COWS.

However, the best experience I've ever gotten w/o 2x was with Victoria and 3 cows. Even though she is using a buff, it increased exp because she increases atk which makes more damage which raises exp regardless. So yea, that's the best. Now that that's said I will list all burst pets I've used or seen being used and explain a bit about it.:

Healers Such as Kanako, Angela, and Niss(SP heal) CAN'T BURST. PERIOD. END OF STORY. IT SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK. (a Heal is a specific type of assists, there are 4 major types of assists... Heal, Seal, Buff, Debuff. Got it? Heals don't work for bursting at all.)

Buffers: Use a skill to increase something about a teammates' pet(s) to gain exp. Rather a better way to explain it is as "Stealing" exp from other player's pets. Some examples of Buffers are:
Sam
Xaolan
Magellan
Victoria

Debuffers: Use a debuff on an opponent much like a fire does for poison/mess/slowdown or a water does with shrink to increase experience. Rather they are "Draining" the experience out of the opponent. Examples of a Debuffers:
Eva
Poisonous Flower

Sealers: Sealers use a seal assist to slightly decrease the opponents defensive ability as well as increase experience, these pets are the least selfish in how they gain experience IMO because they gain it by "Earning" it. The best way to explain this is as making the opponents vulnerable so you increase the chance of higher damage. (I've tested this theory by comparing an atk on the same enemy while it was normal, frozen, shrunk, and both frozen and shrunk. and of course, more damage=more exp) However only one of this type of pet may be in a team along with 3 fires and a water/wind because any more than 4 seals is borderline of counter-productivity because less pets are attacking if more are sealing, decreasing the overall damage. Some examples of Sealers are:
Shasha
Qlaya
(Ling to be released in v5)

Finally, the last type are simple bursting pets, I've seen quite a few things used and it's really simple because you can basically pick just about anything that adds most of it's stats to str and very little to agi as it lvls. Some good examples are:
Cows
Crabs
Sharks
Sheep(for low lvls only)...
the list goes on and on...

IMPORTANT NOTICE: the more Buffers/Debuffers/Sealers in a team, the suckier the exp. Keep that in mind. Don't say I didn't warn you, I did. Also avoid having this type of pet with a team that only has 2 fires, i.e- 2 fires a water and an earth. Don't get me wrong, I love bursting earths and winds, just not when someone is using a pet other than a cow...

Last edited Mon, 31 Aug 2009, 9:00am by soka7

Continuing my previous post... this is how to use each of the dif bursting pet types in general, by that I mean how to set up their remotes...

Rule #1: NONE OF THESE PETS NEED 0 SPD. NONE OF THEM ACTUALLY ATK!!!!(other than the simple bursting pets)... I get sick of people insisting that their pet do some damage and think that's the only way they'll get exp.

Buffers E-remote settings:

1st Priority: defend
2nd Priority: Defend

1st: defend
2nd: defend
3rd: defend

Auto Heal:
(Ally) |HP| |<| |400| (insert assist here)
(Pet) |SP| |<| (amount of SP assist uses -1) (Grape syrup)
Everything else you may leave blank.

How to Manual Buffers:

Defend first turn
Assist on teammate's pet(doesn't matter which)
Assist on a different teammate's pet.
Assist on the last teammate's pet.
Defend if there is a 5th turn.
(do not use Assist on your own pet.)

Debuffers/Sealers E-Remote Settings:

1st Priority: (assist skill)
2nd Priority: Defend

1st: Defend
2nd: Defend
3rd: Assist

Auto Heal:
(Pet) |SP| |<| (amount of SP assist uses -1) (Grape syrup)

you can leave the rest blank. Sealers and Debuffers have the exact same remote setting, just place the seal where the Assist goes... I mean, it is a assist after all...

Debuffers/Sealers Manual:

Defend
Defend
Assist skill on Top beetle (assuming you're at beetles)
Use Assist skill again on top beetle(:P something e-remotes can't do that gets your pet more exp)
Use Assist skill on bottom beetle

Simple burst pets;

I'm not even going to bother, if you don't know how to set up ur remote for a freakin cow, ask around on local. XD I'm too lazy to tell you something you should already know.

Last edited Mon, 31 Aug 2009, 8:55am by soka7

Ok, now I've read what you guys said and I'm gonna answer a few questions real quick and make some corrections...

ENHU wrote:

Xaolan isnt good..
Anyone with DEBUFF Assist skills get MORE exp than those with BUFF assist skills (Eva: Mess, Qlaya:Cord/coma idk, Shasha: freeze all have Debuff)
Dont use: Niss, Xaolan, or any others with Buff skills...

Niss doesn't use a buff, she uses a Heal. And Xaolan does work, but you are correct in that Debuffs get more exp then Buffs.

Adu wrote:

Kiarra wrote:

Victoria is good for bursting ? :[ ...

nope, you cant fully burst with her

ArtAsAHobby wrote:

Xaolan is harder to burst because her skill can't be set as a priority.

If you set her up to use stone wall on the third turn to an allied pet and have her priority set to defend then she should be decent to burst that way.

Charlotte can burst with vanish but it is not as effective as using debuff skills.

Few things, 1.) I know a solution to your dilemma, read my second post... and 2.) Charlotte can't burst correctly. Winds don't use vanish for bursting, that is a common fact. All other burstable pets use assists that can be used on the OTHER pets in the party where she can only use it on herself and therefore it doesn't work for bursting.

Kiarra wrote:

If i burst with victoria...she should use fiery attack on all pets or only on herself?

She should use fiery atk on all pets EXCEPT herself. she doesn't atk.