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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 3:35am #1
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is it possible for niss to burst.i mean she has a skill that helps in battle


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 3:44am #2
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i dont think she can... cuz she has a buff skill not a debuff.


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 3:46am #3
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ahh ok thx.
i still dont no the difference from buff or debuff .-.


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 3:49am #4
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meaganpangie wrote:

ahh ok thx.
i still dont no the difference from buff or debuff .-.

lol okay xD
Buff Skills:
They Heal like Kanako's recovery and Niss' magic recovery >.>

Debuff Skills:
They Seal like Qlaya's cord (i think >.>) and ShaSha's freexing spell.

But the thing i just dont get is:
How can sam burst? =o


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 4:07am #5
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yea... now this whole thing is confusing me! xD

and yw =)


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 4:13am #6
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lol well i will just try and see how much points she gets:)


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 4:27am #7
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Debuff skills (skills that lower the enemies stats) can be used for bursting along with buff skills (skills that increase player's stats). Buff skills should not be confussed with healing skills. Healing skills will heal either hp/sp but do nothing to increase the base stats of the player.

Take Niss magic recovery for example. It is a healing skill. She can cast it on any player to recover SP but when she casts it there is not change in your max SP or any other stat. The only thing that increases when using magic recovery is the amount of SP the player had before the skill was used.

An example of a buff skill is Sam's water shield skill. Water Shield increases the mana defense of a player (an increase in stats) so when a mana attack such as Fire Combo Beating is used the damage from that mana attack will be decreased because of the increased mdef.

So to sum it all up debuff skills (skills that lower enemy stats) can be used bursting. There are 2 types of assist skills: Buff and Healing. Buff skill (skills that increase the stats of a player) can be used in bursing while healing skills (skills that increase hp/sp but do not increase players stats) can not be used in bursting.

I hope I explained the debuff and buff skills are for you guys.


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 4:33am #8
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o.o this is a nice way of putting it:)
thx this is really helpful


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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 4:43am #9
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she cant cuz she only have mp heal for support

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Thu, 18 Feb 2010, 8:08am #10
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Sarin wrote:

Debuff skills (skills that lower the enemies stats) can be used for bursting along with buff skills (skills that increase player's stats). Buff skills should not be confussed with healing skills. Healing skills will heal either hp/sp but do nothing to increase the base stats of the player.

Take Niss magic recovery for example. It is a healing skill. She can cast it on any player to recover SP but when she casts it there is not change in your max SP or any other stat. The only thing that increases when using magic recovery is the amount of SP the player had before the skill was used.

An example of a buff skill is Sam's water shield skill. Water Shield increases the mana defense of a player (an increase in stats) so when a mana attack such as Fire Combo Beating is used the damage from that mana attack will be decreased because of the increased mdef.

So to sum it all up debuff skills (skills that lower enemy stats) can be used bursting. There are 2 types of assist skills: Buff and Healing. Buff skill (skills that increase the stats of a player) can be used in bursing while healing skills (skills that increase hp/sp but do not increase players stats) can not be used in bursting.

I hope I explained the debuff and buff skills are for you guys.

omg thanks sarin! really helped me alot! =D


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Sat, 20 Feb 2010, 5:33am #11
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as far as i have seen and experimented with different pets is that shield type can count as bursting. None healing hp/sp can be used as burst when talking about pets. I also figured a way to burst Charlotte, its not that much but its something. IM also working on another diferent and none sp way XD but haven`t try anything yet.


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Sat, 20 Feb 2010, 7:21am #12
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Nelsito wrote:

as far as i have seen and experimented with different pets is that shield type can count as bursting. None healing hp/sp can be used as burst when talking about pets. I also figured a way to burst Charlotte, its not that much but its something. IM also working on another diferent and none sp way XD but haven`t try anything yet.

oooohhh interesting!! plz report them back as fast as u can cuz i would want to trythem also! xD


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Sat, 20 Feb 2010, 7:57am #13
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niss is not burstable ^.^


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Sun, 21 Feb 2010, 6:26am #14
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._. no she cant burst at all


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Sun, 21 Feb 2010, 9:48pm #15
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There are 4(or so) types of assist spells in game.

Healing Skills: Pretty much healing spells that you can use to heal someone's HP or SP.
Recovery, Holy Shield(angela), Magic Recovery, etc.

Buff Skills: These skills either increase a stat or power of your team member(s) or either block/shield you from enemies' attacks.
Fiery Attack, Hotfire Attack, Stone Wall, Water Shield, SpeedUp, etc.

Debuff Skills: The skills that you cast on an enemy. You can either block them(seal) or decrease their stats/power to weaken them.
Shrink, Freezing Spell, Sleep, Terrafication, Tree Bind, Mess Spell, Cord Spell, Coma Spell, etc.

Anti-debuff Skills: This is how I call these skills. These skills are the ones that remove the debuffs that your enemies cast on someone at your side, or the buffs that your enemies cast on another enemy at their side.
Free From Mess(and others), Unstun, etc.

So in this case, to burst, the person(either pet or player) must have buff or debuff skill(s).


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Sun, 21 Feb 2010, 10:23pm #16
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PERFECT, Mert82. Good job in writing them. I put the link to your post for Goddess Training Guide as well:

Q: What is a debuff?
A: An assistant skill that can be used for enemy, like slowdown, freezing spell, etcetera. And a buff is also an assistant skill, but then for ally. Read more about 4 different categories of assistant skills: http://wlodb.com/posts/34606

Thank you very much.

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Sun, 21 Feb 2010, 10:50pm #17
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However you can level the healing and revive skills using bursting strategies.

If you heal someone then they get a ton of experience the next round, the healing skill levels proportionally. But their level gets no experience.


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Sun, 21 Feb 2010, 11:56pm #18
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ChronosAurvand wrote:

However you can level the healing and revive skills using bursting strategies.

If you heal someone then they get a ton of experience the next round, the healing skill levels proportionally. But their level gets no experience.
You are right my friend. Training normally got its own secrets. Let me explain:
-When the pet combo with the team it gets more experience for the both.

-When you'r battlering a monster, you can hit after casting any wisdom from your pet and your character. It doesn`t matter who cast it, It will make a real effect on the experience. That`s how I train from lvl 1-20 in one single day. If i get 100EXP each time normally training, using A Wisdom skill makes it like 400+EXP each experience. Even when the lvl is 19- minus yours u will be able to get some exp.


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Mon, 22 Feb 2010, 9:55am #19
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yeah. skill can be trained in bursting.. if niss can be bursted, lol that will be total pawnage :D


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Mert82 wrote:

There are 4(or so) types of assist spells in game.

Healing Skills: Pretty much healing spells that you can use to heal someone's HP or SP.
Recovery, Holy Shield(angela), Magic Recovery, etc.

Buff Skills: These skills either increase a stat or power of your team member(s) or either block/shield you from enemies' attacks.
Fiery Attack, Hotfire Attack, Stone Wall, Water Shield, SpeedUp, etc.

Debuff Skills: The skills that you cast on an enemy. You can either block them(seal) or decrease their stats/power to weaken them.
Shrink, Freezing Spell, Sleep, Terrafication, Tree Bind, Mess Spell, Cord Spell, Coma Spell, etc.

Anti-debuff Skills: This is how I call these skills. These skills are the ones that remove the debuffs that your enemies cast on someone at your side, or the buffs that your enemies cast on another enemy at their side.
Free From Mess(and others), Unstun, etc.

So in this case, to burst, the person(either pet or player) must have buff or debuff skill(s).

You missed out Unload wall, and it doesn't help in bursting either.

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Fri, 09 Mar 2012, 8:40am #21
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Well I think that Niss is not burstable too but I heard a news from my friends that she's burstable , then I ask how then they just replp : Secret =.= I think their just making fun of me ~

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Necro Post -P

And Niss is not burstable at all her skill is recovery not Buff or debuff.

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