Does anyone know what good stats for a fire mage are?

my wit has :
Str: 0
Con: 150
Int: 310
Wis: 55
Agi: 40

he is rb lv 85. and he has around 1.1k+ matk naked.
i regreat that i added so much wis btw.. :-<
i want more int for him xD

looks like mine, but my wit is level 112 rb

the dif there is my wit have 10 more points on con and less 10 on agi and int is around 100 points more :)

Hasui wrote:

looks like mine, but my wit is level 112 rb

the dif there is my wit have 10 more points on con and less 10 on agi and int is around 100 points more :)

I dont think Wis is that importance to a fire let alone a mage :[ 42 Wis is enough for fire. Depending on what you want to do with the fire, decide how much Con, Str/Int, and Agi the fire will have.

my fire warrior is actually unique compared to what most fires i've seen are like, i'll post his stats when i get home.

his attack is about 1200 naked, hp is 2.7k, sp is 1.6k, spd is almost 400, int is around 350.

i do know that his Wis is 77, and his Agi is 33

Edit:
Str-314
Con-158
Int-2
Wis-77
Agi-33

Last edited Wed, 21 Oct 2009, 6:58pm by Raziel61

WTH is with the agi its a waist unless ur all pk build my fire mage is 159 her stats r

str 0
con 110
int 319
wis 53
agi 0

Fire is the damage dealer not the going first type! I will add 20-30 more con and wis at 55 is beneficial cause more protection and long stamina on use of skills. Remember that ur water support heals and seals or if earth present they heal and seal too, and usually the ones to go first, so let them do their jobs the way the game was intended. My mage also has 264 spd and with Resistant necklace she has 304 spd enough spd for fires and doesn't lose any matk from other equips to get spd up

He/she who hits last hits best!!

onxblaq wrote:

WTH is with the agi its a waist unless ur all pk build my fire mage is 159 her stats r

str 0
con 110
int 319
wis 53
agi 0

Fire is the damage dealer not the going first type! I will add 20-30 more con and wis at 55 is beneficial cause more protection and long stamina on use of skills. Remember that ur water support heals and seals or if earth present they heal and seal too, and usually the ones to go first, so let them do their jobs the way the game was intended. My mage also has 264 spd and with Resistant necklace she has 304 spd enough spd for fires and doesn't lose any matk from other equips to get spd up

He/she who hits last hits best!!

actually compared to many other people's fires that i have seen, mine is actually kinda slow compared to them. I'm a warrior so i need at least 4 so i can use any form of hagendis, the rest is just so that i can combo with my freinds, as it helps in doing higher lvl quests, and also 15 rounds

Don't need agility really, either.
My stats for my fire mage is:

STr: 0
Con: 142
INT: 155
Wis: 54
agi: 0

i have nearly 1500 matk with her. I just keep adding to INT. i want pure matk with her for hard quests.

onxblaq wrote:

WTH is with the agi its a waist unless ur all pk build my fire mage is 159 her stats r

str 0
con 110
int 319
wis 53
agi 0

Fire is the damage dealer not the going first type! I will add 20-30 more con and wis at 55 is beneficial cause more protection and long stamina on use of skills. Remember that ur water support heals and seals or if earth present they heal and seal too, and usually the ones to go first, so let them do their jobs the way the game was intended. My mage also has 264 spd and with Resistant necklace she has 304 spd enough spd for fires and doesn't lose any matk from other equips to get spd up

He/she who hits last hits best!!

and u think u will have time to hit in one PK for the last?
hahaha u call 0 agi of PK build???

u made me laugh now...

if ur fire is slow like a turtle even the pets from others can kill u..

ALL pk builds need to have agi.

Even if u got knight spirit lol any fighter fire or mage fire in other team can kill u in 1 slap because ur 110 con...

U need to learn more about PK stat.

304 spd enough for fires?

The elin of all my characters can act first then while i have 4 elins considerable elins on my character u even can add if all my team got seal...

u would killed by my elins. ☺

Hasui wrote:

and u think u will have time to hit in one PK for the last?
hahaha u call 0 agi of PK build???

u made me laugh now...

if ur fire is slow like a turtle even the pets from others can kill u..

ALL pk builds need to have agi.

0-10 agi fire is called quest build you idiot, not everyone is into pk like you. And hell unless your char can get 1k+ speed, you'd get owned when pure pk teams hit the game. Hell taurus, aries, and cancer already has a few pure pker teams with 1k+ spd fires that can still deal 2-4k none crit... quit posting bullshit builds saying "ALL FIRES MUST HAVE 50+ AGI".

Oh and also, your full team of elins = shit against a full team with def vests, no matter how high a level your elin is it wont be able to deal above 100 damage vs a def vested player. Have fun trying to kill 2-4k+ hp while only hitting 80 MAX when your fire chars get owned when you can't 1 shot none crit kill the fires on the other side. Good job picking a pet that can get its damage reduced by two VERY common and easily made items.

some1 wrote:

Does anyone know what good stats for a fire mage are?

forget what these kids are saying about agi, don't even place more then needed your skills. A fire thats not pure pk with above 10 agi is a piece of shit fire that wasted points.

this is my 193 none rb fire melle and my 190 non rb mage fire quest builds
melle:
375 str
160 con
0 int
42 wis
4 agi

mage:
0 str
160 con
370 int
42 wis
0 agi

Last edited Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 4:03am by Flood

I totally agree with zerg and hate pk builds. Whats the point when you die in quests so easily?
Im in aries so im not in cancer, i say a yes to 42 wis and for about a level 81 rb say 400 int and about 42 wis, rest on con

this isnt a prefered build though because u die easily so u need a real good support

if u want a good build, go with what zerg said though i would go 150 con, no offense zerg

good luck =P

P.S agi sucks shit because pks are ueseless its not like you get exp from it XD but u lose it -.- and wen ur reborn, its baaadd to lose exp stick with quests

Flood wrote:

Hasui wrote:

and u think u will have time to hit in one PK for the last?
hahaha u call 0 agi of PK build???

u made me laugh now...

if ur fire is slow like a turtle even the pets from others can kill u..

ALL pk builds need to have agi.

0-10 agi fire is called quest build you idiot, not everyone is into pk like you. And hell unless your char can get 1k+ speed, you'd get owned when pure pk teams hit the game. Hell taurus, aries, and cancer already has a few pure pker teams with 1k+ spd fires that can still deal 2-4k none crit... quit posting bullshit builds saying "ALL FIRES MUST HAVE 50+ AGI".

Oh and also, your full team of elins = shit against a full team with def vests, no matter how high a level your elin is it wont be able to deal above 100 damage vs a def vested player. Have fun trying to kill 2-4k+ hp while only hitting 80 MAX when your fire chars get owned when you can't 1 shot none crit kill the fires on the other side. Good job picking a pet that can get its damage reduced by two VERY common and easily made items.

some1 wrote:

Does anyone know what good stats for a fire mage are?

forget what these kids are saying about agi, don't even place more then needed your skills. A fire thats not pure pk with above 10 agi is a piece of shit fire that wasted points.

this is my 193 none rb fire melle and my 190 non rb mage fire quest builds
melle:
375 str
160 con
0 int
42 wis
4 agi

mage:
0 str
160 con
370 int
42 wis
0 agi

Man you are really a retard. When i said all fres need to have 50+ agi?
Before ur post here stop to drink or use drugs...

U try to look that understand about the game but you are really a retard.
Use a vest on PK team event and u will be killed for anyone with hf.

i said if u WANT PK BUILD u need to HAVE spd.

and now i know u love to say bullshit are you a bullshit lover? looks like xD

Another thing... Why are u always offending ppl and calling them idiots? ur mother dont teach u education? offend others and u will get that too.
You are getting crazy man... U need to visit ur psychiatrist.
U curse ppl because a build of a game...

PS.: i have 30 agi and i can hit 1k spd using saddle i have 2 kinds of saddle
and after u said that things about vanish dont work with shield of temple ur informations arent trustable :)

Last edited Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 5:45am by Hasui

Flood wrote:

Hasui wrote:

and u think u will have time to hit in one PK for the last?
hahaha u call 0 agi of PK build???

u made me laugh now...

if ur fire is slow like a turtle even the pets from others can kill u..

ALL pk builds need to have agi.

0-10 agi fire is called quest build you idiot, not everyone is into pk like you. And hell unless your char can get 1k+ speed, you'd get owned when pure pk teams hit the game. Hell taurus, aries, and cancer already has a few pure pker teams with 1k+ spd fires that can still deal 2-4k none crit... quit posting bullshit builds saying "ALL FIRES MUST HAVE 50+ AGI".

Oh and also, your full team of elins = shit against a full team with def vests, no matter how high a level your elin is it wont be able to deal above 100 damage vs a def vested player. Have fun trying to kill 2-4k+ hp while only hitting 80 MAX when your fire chars get owned when you can't 1 shot none crit kill the fires on the other side. Good job picking a pet that can get its damage reduced by two VERY common and easily made items.

some1 wrote:

Does anyone know what good stats for a fire mage are?

forget what these kids are saying about agi, don't even place more then needed your skills. A fire thats not pure pk with above 10 agi is a piece of shit fire that wasted points.

this is my 193 none rb fire melle and my 190 non rb mage fire quest builds
melle:
375 str
160 con
0 int
42 wis
4 agi

mage:
0 str
160 con
370 int
42 wis
0 agi

Last edited Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 5:43am by _Misa_

Hasui wrote:

Another thing... Why are u always offending ppl and calling them idiots? ur mother dont teach u education? offend others and u will get that too.
You are getting crazy man... U need to visit ur psychiatrist.
U curse ppl because a build of a game...

Man you are really a retard. When i said all fres need to have 50+ agi?
Before ur post here stop to drink or use drugs...

U try to look that understand about the game but you are really a retard.
Use a vest on PK team event and u will be killed for anyone with hf.

i said if u WANT PK BUILD u need to HAVE spd.

and now i know u love to say bullshit are you a bullshit lover? looks like xD

PS.: i have 30 agi and i can hit 1k spd using saddle i have 2 kinds of saddle
and after u said that things about vanish dont work with shield of temple ur informations arent trustable :)

Go ahead use hotfire in pk, then tell me what happens? You are killed by a slower more powerful quest build fire, you have wasted a turn just to die, good job, you are dead in 1-2 turns anyways so why even use hotfire? or are your chars that f***ing weak where they can't even none crit shot 2k hp? good god I think they are that weak. And like I said not every one is a pk fag wanna be like you. Try to do hardcore quests and tell me how many mobs you can outrun... ZERO unless you get above 1k+ speed. But if you have 1k+ speed as a fire, and a good con rating (2k+ hp) that means you are in pure spd gears with a bestly spd ride so that means your attack is shit and you'd only be able to do 2/3 of your max damage if that.

These pure pk teams dont even have spd saddles or spd eqs to get to 1k+ so they can easily own you. I know about 10 pure pk fires across all the servers with 1.5k+ spd, 1.4k+atk(matk) and 1.5k-1.8k hp they dont have any spd equips or a rides and they can hit 2-4k no crit. Hell 3 of them even have a +6 IM bow with maxed volley and they lay the entire other side dead before the other side can even move hitting 1-3k per arrow shot. Show me your char that can beat their spd or live there assualt of 2-4 fires built like this please? Oh thats right you can't cause nothing can beat these pure pk fires.

And you never even showed proof that vanish and temple CAN stack like you said you were going to, Where'd that go to? oh thats right cause it cant, I know and I have seen with my own eyes that one or the other misses if the other one is on them.

Hasui wrote:

Another thing... Why are u always offending ppl and calling them idiots? ur mother dont teach u education? offend others and u will get that too.
You are getting crazy man... U need to visit ur psychiatrist.
U curse ppl because a build of a game...

I repect people that dont go around posting false information like you have always done on these forums. 90% of your posts are false info and you know it, scott even knows it to but he doesnt seem to care as long people keep visiting these forums giving him money in his pocket. And it seems like you are the one without a proper education always posting "U" "UR" or are you to lazy to make three extra key stokes?

Last edited Sun, 19 Feb 2012, 1:58am by Vampire

u or u is a question of education?
Like i said u really need to visit ur psychiatrist...
U dont respect nobody here, not only my post u curse ppl in a lot of them, probably u dont respect even ur family.

non-education things isn't "ur" or "u", is like u say things like "idiot" or "bullshit" maybe u tell that things to ur mother.

Dont talk about scott, we are talking about u u dont about him, dont put another ppl between it, or u are too weak to try defend urself alone?

my informations false? Who said about that ridiculous things about shield of temple dont wrok with vanish? you... because u try to be smart but u aren't.

The event is called Band of Brothers and ppl know like PK event is a TEAM event then do you really think i will waste 1 turn gsing myself or i will get a GS by another fire?

Oh yeah u think i cant do 2k? yeah i dont do 2k, i can do 3k+ without any critical i have 1.9k matk, i play in cancer my nick is Hasui go there if u need proof.

And now, dont try hide ur false informations saying about me to post false, i helped many ppl here with my posts, even u also helped, when u isnt talking things like shield temple didnt work with vanish. Proof? Read your post that u put the link to me and u will read on wonderland oficial forum that.

seems like u even dont respect scott, because what u said about him is like the same of u calling him of mercenary.

i repeat psychiatrist, maybe it can help u.

One guy of Cancer and his Team he is called Clovet, try to own him with ur loved "PK fires build" and he will kick ur ass, his team is one of the bests in PK event and his fire even dont have agi, just the one that him uses to HF or mess.

Last edited Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 9:35am by Hasui

For the record, it does help having some speed. not even having anything to do with pk, i'm talking about training, when you are a reborn, if you are slow as shit, then you won't be able to combo with anyone to train with, now if you wanna train by yourself later and get shit exp, then that is up to you. i am not much a pk build. in fact i've not found anyone yet that can kill me in 1 turn, b/c not many players can do almost 3k damage without hf.XD

I was stating that it does help having SOME speed, so you can train in a team, and comboing is a major thing in many higher lvl quests.

Hasui wrote:

u or u is a question of education?
Like i said u really need to visit ur psychiatrist...
U dont respect nobody here, not only my post u curse ppl in a lot of them, probably u dont respect even ur family.

non-education things isn't "ur" or "u", is like u say things like "idiot" or "bullshit" maybe u tell that things to ur mother.

Dont talk about scott, we are talking about u u dont about him, dont put another ppl between it, or u are too weak to try defend urself alone?

my informations false? Who said about that ridiculous things about shield of temple dont wrok with vanish? you... because u try to be smart but u aren't.

The event is called Band of Brothers and ppl know like PK event is a TEAM event then do you really think i will waste 1 turn gsing myself or i will get a GS by another fire?

Oh yeah u think i cant do 2k? yeah i dont do 2k, i can do 3k+ without any critical i have 1.9k matk, i play in cancer my nick is Hasui go there if u need proof.

And now, dont try hide ur false informations saying about me to post false, i helped many ppl here with my posts, even u also helped, when u isnt talking things like shield temple didnt work with vanish. Proof? Read your post that u put the link to me and u will read on wonderland oficial forum that.

seems like u even dont respect scott, because what u said about him is like the same of u calling him of mercenary.

i repeat psychiatrist, maybe it can help u.

One guy of Cancer and his Team he is called Clovet, try to own him with ur loved "PK fires build" and he will kick ur ass, his team is one of the bests in PK event and his fire even dont have agi, just the one that him uses to HF or mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education

"Idiot" "bullshit" etc is disrespect not education and I already said I only respect peope that dont post bs. I could care less about my mother, she abandoned my dad, me and my brother 5 years ago so I dont give a shit about her. Scott is a mod of these forums and he has seen a lot of fights hapening between members and he doesnt care or do anything about it, I havent seen scoot in 2 weeks. And now he even had to branch out a semi mod to watch this place for him but they still dont get anything done. How hard could it be to mod a forum that has less then 30 posts a day?

I still havent seen your proof that you promised about haveing that warriors js and vanish stack, show it already, or is it taking to long to fix the video/ss to show that it won't stack? In BOB the only times anyone would be stupid enough to hotfire someone else, let alone themselves is if they know already they are to weak to kill the other side, anyone with a major pk background in twl will tell you that hotfire in pvp = you being dead within the next 2 turns. ONLY 1.9k matk at 11x wit? lol lemme guess to cheap to invest in good diamonds/gears/saddle and saddle ride? my friends lvl 95 rb wit has almost 2k matk with around 3k+ hp no fork /+hp items.

I already cleared it up with a few of twl friends and they said he mis typed warriors js and vanish into opposite "categories". I have seen it in both twl and igg wlo that they wont stack but sadly I had to restore my entire computer 2 weeks ago and all my video and SS proof was removed.(hence why I havent been posting here since I forgot this site even existed until I needed to find a compound of blue kung fu last night).

Trust me clovet and anyone else with a current times "pk god" team will get owned by these pure pk fires unless they have 1.5k+ speed. IGG wlo BOB is only in the dual use (quest and pk split wannabes) pker's stage not even anywhere close to twl pk. Twl pk is nothing BUT pure spd pkers, if you arent one of those builds going to twl pk you wont even place. I've only seen those 10 I know that have a pure pk single/team chars in igg wlo thats becuase they are thinking ahead and making single purpose chars. Hell I've even heard of pk fires in twl with near 2k spd that can still hit like crazy, it all matters how you build the char, the ride pet, and how you have its eq set up.

Raziel61 wrote:

For the record, it does help having some speed. not even having anything to do with pk, i'm talking about training, when you are a reborn, if you are slow as shit, then you won't be able to combo with anyone to train with, now if you wanna train by yourself later and get shit exp, then that is up to you. i am not much a pk build. in fact i've not found anyone yet that can kill me in 1 turn, b/c not many players can do almost 3k damage without hf.XD

I was stating that it does help having SOME speed, so you can train in a team, and comboing is a major thing in many higher lvl quests.

You can switch gears while training after rb, duh and not like an extra 4-8x +atk will make much difference in exp anyways. My fires have 0 and 4 agi and they can go anywhere between 0-850+ spd with only nimbused spd eqs on themselves and the pure atk/matk lethed rides they use. Lol not many people can 1 shot 3k hp? which server is this from saggi? lol the good servers have players that can hit 4-6k 1 shot no hotfire/crit, even my melle and mage with only 1660atk and 1640matk can hit 3k no hf no crit, guess you just got weak friends.

Have you tried to outrun rb, ds, fs, and js mobs with your fire? lol good luck trying cause the only people that can do it are pure agi chars. You dont want to have to high a spd difference in your killers or they wont even combo at all. Hell I have weights on my fires when I do major quests ike that just so they will combo knowing I won't outrun the mobs.

Last edited Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 3:18pm by Flood

we are playing the english version of wonderland not twl.
if u got a char on twl strong like that i dont know what u are doing playing this english version.
and now i understand why u are so rude, personal problems affect ppl.

if u think 1.9k matk weak to a rb level 11x fire wit it is ur problem, i think around 90% from the ppl that plays wlo and post here in this forum they think its a nice matk.

I even dont finished to equip my chars and yes i need some better dias but take a bit long to make money to buy good dias.

I play on cancer server and i dont know nobody that have more matk than me, the only one i know that can have more (but not sure) is the Clovet.

Well i'm wit i can hit with blaze beating, so a fighter fire that doesnt have one IM bow HF me cause i can hit more than one target.

In cancer server not many ppl have crescent bow there the only one that have it and use in PK event is one character of clovet, Harmonie is wind and he uses arow rain and really do a lot of dmg, i know a fire atacking with a arrow rain does much more dmg, but he still does nice with, and if we are talking about wonderland online the english version dont compare with twl version. I know the pk in TWL isnt something like PK in WLO. Cause there are characters only made for that thing.

But for our version and seeing about the points u need around 250 agi+ to have around 800 spd naked, with good dias (not many ppl has it 50+ dias on cancer) in spd equipments they can be like it around 1.5k spd and using saddles but dispending 250 points on agi they wont have many points to put in str making the char dont hit like a pure str character (the fire mage of clovet has 1.5k spd + using spd equips saddle and gears and hits like a baby)

Then is unable to compare WLO against TWL, but our version is WLO so lets talk about WLO.

About what u post there about education, while u are disrespecting ppl u are doing anti polite things, so disrespect doesnt match with education.

Yeah i know scott havent appearing here so much and rarely he does something against ppl arguing or fighting, but its our discussion let him off from this, we dont need to talk about him.

Well is it, right if my character had a light dia on some equips right he would have 2k+ matk but actually he doesnt have but he is near anyway.

My characters isnt a PK build and what i posted here is, if u want a PK character fire u need to spd, read my second post here, i never said my character have a PK build i just said to that guy, if he wants to have a fire PK character he needs to have AGI.

Not only u have problems with PC, i lost my HD with all my things some days ago. i dont have SS, but Touchedwas a Warrior Wind and i saw one "for fun PK" at SB and he used JS/Vanish together.

But touched bought mall points and changed his class to knight with that mirror.

But u, you have posted on that post 2 links to see that, and one of ur links doesnt was talking about Vanish and Shield of temple have some ways to beat, like critcting the wind fatal blow etc. and another one was a table showing what skills can be used with another and not miss, and Vanish was posted on one single space meaning vanish is able to accept any buff while this skill is on effect(vanish i mean). Then u showed it, a proof that it is able to happen.

Well anyway i dont know why u were so angry to call others of idiot or bullshit, if i even dont told about my character be a PK build...

And like u posted there, yes i have saddles, still not full lethed pet but near to be, level 88 fire parrot, and i'm like u my equips are nimbused and some has some forge on them.

though it is true that you can use gears while training, at least with most of what i train, where it is better with a team, those great gears that you will have, they will all soon break.

WoW, nice detailed explanation from everyone.. esp Hasui.

Wonder why Andrams didn't place a good advice like he always did.. xD xD xD

Hmmmm.

My lvl 86 reborned fire wit is :
Str - 0
Con - 150
Int - 386
Wis - 27(lowering to 20 x.x don't ask why, I don't fond wis really)
Agi - 0

his hp is almost 2.6k , his naked Matk without his manteau is 1177 :)

Jorky69 wrote:

WoW, nice detailed explanation from everyone.. esp Hasui.

Wonder why Andrams didn't place a good advice like he always did.. xD xD xD

loo lazy to write xD
i just make examples or explain things ^^
then u better learn by ure self the things.. more funny :P

Metatron wrote:

Hmmmm.

My lvl 86 reborned fire wit is :
Str - 0
Con - 150
Int - 386
Wis - 27(lowering to 20 x.x don't ask why, I don't fond wis really)
Agi - 0

his hp is almost 2.6k , his naked Matk without his manteau is 1177 :)

o.O i'm wondering why ur fire wit dont have mess and u still scrolling ur wis...

and with that wis u have around 600 or 700 sp is very low, i think fire wits need enough wis to have a mess sometimes it is good. Seeing u arent a pk build would be nice to have mess.

Hasui wrote:

Metatron wrote:

Hmmmm.

My lvl 86 reborned fire wit is :
Str - 0
Con - 150
Int - 386
Wis - 27(lowering to 20 x.x don't ask why, I don't fond wis really)
Agi - 0

his hp is almost 2.6k , his naked Matk without his manteau is 1177 :)

o.O i'm wondering why ur fire wit dont have mess and u still scrolling ur wis...

and with that wis u have around 600 or 700 sp is very low, i think fire wits need enough wis to have a mess sometimes it is good. Seeing u arent a pk build would be nice to have mess.

he's wit is a full DMGer xD
i know many fires with no mes..
like.. in Virgo, Reo is one of the most powerfull Killers.. he has only 18 wis.. tha's coz he is full ATK ^^
in This case we have a full MATK char xD (for quests)

Andrams wrote:

Hasui wrote:

Metatron wrote:

Hmmmm.

My lvl 86 reborned fire wit is :
Str - 0
Con - 150
Int - 386
Wis - 27(lowering to 20 x.x don't ask why, I don't fond wis really)
Agi - 0

his hp is almost 2.6k , his naked Matk without his manteau is 1177 :)

o.O i'm wondering why ur fire wit dont have mess and u still scrolling ur wis...

and with that wis u have around 600 or 700 sp is very low, i think fire wits need enough wis to have a mess sometimes it is good. Seeing u arent a pk build would be nice to have mess.

he's wit is a full DMGer xD
i know many fires with no mes..
like.. in Virgo, Reo is one of the most powerfull Killers.. he has only 18 wis.. tha's coz he is full ATK ^^
in This case we have a full MATK char xD (for quests)

Lol, yeah Andrams's right, my wit has no mess because he is meant for killing, Mess is a pk spell, not really what I crave for.
my alt Zelix is lvl 179 now, almost 180, and her wis is only 11, con 110 and str would be 420 soon, its all about the build, the damage, I don't care about mess or pk's because my fires are naturally monsters.
besides, why would I have mess for a character that isn't fast enough to use it ^^

Well the most important thing for a fire is CON and SPD and XD most of all his danage attak so in this case add some points to CON AGI and MATK then the rest is just play with the stats

Andrams wrote:

Hasui wrote:

Metatron wrote:

Hmmmm.

My lvl 86 reborned fire wit is :
Str - 0
Con - 150
Int - 386
Wis - 27(lowering to 20 x.x don't ask why, I don't fond wis really)
Agi - 0

his hp is almost 2.6k , his naked Matk without his manteau is 1177 :)

o.O i'm wondering why ur fire wit dont have mess and u still scrolling ur wis...

and with that wis u have around 600 or 700 sp is very low, i think fire wits need enough wis to have a mess sometimes it is good. Seeing u arent a pk build would be nice to have mess.

he's wit is a full DMGer xD
i know many fires with no mes..
like.. in Virgo, Reo is one of the most powerfull Killers.. he has only 18 wis.. tha's coz he is full ATK ^^
in This case we have a full MATK char xD (for quests)

Full atack character for quests will need to be recovered all the time...
and it isnt a good thing.

and mess isnt a PK spell, can be very nice at PK but fires at PK dont will waste the time messing, they will atack, normally fire pkers kill 1 hit, then no point to use mess if he can kill.

Mess spell sometimes is good, like when for example, u are doing a quest and u wanting to suck the monsters first with pestle, and some of them have high resistance against seal (sealord for example) and u havent a earth with high matk on the team, u can mess trace to avois a bit his magical dmgs... and a wit with high int have a great chance to affect him with mess, mess have a chance to get the enemy better than the other seals.

Trace sealord still has a built in critical lol, and I know , though my mage only spawned from an attack from 2 sharks, and that happened once ^^

yeah he got critical hit and... can spawn too if he got fire atack from sea horse, he is dangerous.