So...

Every now and then, when looking for vague tips and tricks (I don't like being spoiled too much over things I can find myself), I go Google up some Wonderland Online information. And I've noticed a lot of old Wonderland Online forums and topics and reviews are filled with a lot of "Not as good as it used to be", "Not fun anymore", and "Empty - Dead - Obsolete" comments and topics.

Well, I just wanted to throw this in here:

I'm new to Wonderland Online. Me and two of my friends are as well.
We used to play a lot of FFXIV (PS4 - PS3) together - that is, until we moved in together and our signals would block each others' signals out (current living situation doesn't give us free access to the wifi router to adjust this). So most times we have to play local multiplayer games in one form or another.
However, there's something most local multiplayer games don't have yet when it comes to the world of MMOs...
With that said, I went to go find an MMORPG with low specs (not all of us have good rigs), playable (aka minimum lag), and most of all: Fun (aka making memories). That's when I found Wonderland Online.
As I left the internet during the years Wonderland Online reached its peak, I didn't know anything about it. And it looked fun, playable, and certainly with low specs. Fit the bill perfectly (I decided on this after comparing over 30 other MMORPGs).

As I said, we're new. We don't know what we're doing most times. And we're like cavemen discovering fire whenever we figure something out.
None of us know what the heck bursting is, none of us care to find the perfect grinding spots, and none of us even know where we're supposed to go.
To further push this effect of "I dunno wtf I'm doing": we're on a smaller server. As we've had mostly bad experiences with playing with others online, we tend to pick more quiet servers to have our fun. Meaning, we don't really get help from others... and the very few we run into don't even speak our language. XD

Overall, we're having a blast.
From teaming up together to fight harder foes, to splitting up to gather supplies, to finding new places, trying new items and recipes, comparing Pets and their names, comparing where we found Quests and Items, and etc... It's a load of fun.
Even the terrible translations have their charm to them ("Uncle, refresh yourself" is now a phrase we use to joke with).

We're hooked on the game and play it on our free time.
Eventually we'll build up our own tiny guild, make our houses prettier, continue challenging each other to PvP duels to see who's the strongest (or rather, whose pet is the strongest), and keep relaying our discoveries to one another. Who knows, we may even run into some few that may join us along the way.

Overall, Wonderland Online is an awesome game and terribly overlooked from "TOP 10 2D MMORPGs" lists (trust me on that, I've watched/read A TON of these videos/articles -- most of them are missing something from their game that Wonderland Online fulfills easily).

I just wanted to let y'all know that. Just to remind ya' that, to us newbies who aren't killing ourselves over "perfect methods" or rummaging through every little strategy guide... It's still an amazing game.
And I'm sure we're not the only ones.

As for what server we're in? Not saying. I'd prefer if we didn't get a sudden boost of help when we could've discovered these things ourselves. If ya' ever run into us, then cool. That's a discovery in itself.

Anyways.
Have fun out there, everyone.

Hello!!
Welcome to WLO!!

The first time I played WLO was maybe in 2007 or 2008. I recently came back after taking a few years off, and I'm sad to say, that the changes are very obvious for veteran players like me. Even I'm guilty of saying things like, "It's not the same" or "This server is dead." I wish you could have seen this game in its glory days. You guys would have LOVED it. There was something magical about this game and the communities it built that just can't be replaced.

However, like you said, the game itself is fun, and there are ways to enjoy it. Veteran players, like me, might just be stinky grinches for griping and complaining, but although it may sound cliche, I guess you just had to be there... WLO is great, but back then, when the communities were lively and bustling with energy, when people played together instead of making full teams and playing by themselves, when guilds were like family, when stores filled Carnie and Kelan, when prices were affordable and everything sold wasn't just Item Mall stuff, when events were hosted regularly by GMs with riddles, hot springs, puzzles, games, and quizzes, when the game was constantly being updated with something new to do -- it was indescribable.

I still love the game, but I can't help but be a little nostalgic when I think about the past. Therefore, I hope you will excuse me when I say I miss the old WLO. Anyways, enough about me, I'm glad you guys are having fun though! I hope you guys build your own memories within this game, and even though the game is much different from before, I hope it can be "magical" to you guys in its own, unique way. It may different, but I guess different isn't all too bad.

As an old member of the WLO community, I agree with the statement that its fun way back in the days. When there wasn't bursting cause people are forced to grind it out the way its supposed to be. People comparing real progress and helping each other out in quests and exploring every corner of the game with your friends/guild.

I remember the days when some GM's even appear in welling village to talk to us during pvp events or just random times. But now its not like that. Sometimes progress isn't everything and it kills the "good stuff" in life.

Links to important stuff:
Transport Quests: http://wlodb.com/topics/99
WLO Pets: http://wlodb.com/topics/13670
WLO Emoticons: http://wlodb.com/topics/6195

PSN :)

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DRAGON CAVE - Click or see them if u will lol ^^

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I get what y'all are saying. I've been a part of many-a-MMO (my favorite was City of Heroes back when City of Heroes and City of Villains were separate games/subscriptions - so we were very loyal to our sides (and were totally in-character whether we were RP'ing or not)... I was a Villain). And I certainly know what it's like when communities are at their best.

However, I'm in a very small minority here, as I have never *fully* fit into any MMO community. As almost all of them had people pushing me to level up more, check out this place, join this and that event, participate in this and that and this and that, constantly bug me when my builds were "all wrong"... when I just wanted to take in the world and its activities at my own (slow) pace.
MMOs have the beauty of large exploration and customization, but when every place is already "discovered" (people talking about places already in the starting areas), when everyone's pushing you to go faster (or leaving you behind outright because you wouldn't 'step it up'), when people are dead-set on specific builds and skills, when people are harassed for time and item-uses, and quest after quest after quest is filled with people pointing where to go rather than taking the time to take things in... that sense of exploration is rather dulled out - not to mention that customization becomes redundant when there's only a few "right ways" to customize.

Again, I'm in the minority. Even amongst my friends (who both would have absolutely loved the game at its prime). But the fact that this game is still playable even after all the changes - the fact that it's still enjoyable even after everything's been removed and/or corrupted. Not just for me (who's always been kind of a loner in MMORPGs), but for my friends who would have fit into the old game: It speaks a lot for the game itself as a standalone product.
It seems to me that most of the sadness over the game comes from the loss of the community, and hand-in-hand: the changes to the game.

However, as a group new to the game and in a small server (zero community, essentially), and also completely unaware of the trading system (there's nothing to trade or barter or buy from others when we never run into anyone)... and still enjoying it?
That's a mark of a solidly-made game.

Compare this with other MMO games such as Angels Online, Dragomon Hunter, World of Warcraft, and etc... Where if there's no community, there's no fun in the dull game in itself. Or where the changes are so apparent and distracting even if someone never experienced the vanilla version.
Wonderland Online is solid for that.

Solely my opinion: But I think all games should be able to stand on their own. A multiplayer game filled with only bots or standard CPU, for instance, should still be exciting. A platformer game without competing for speed-runs should still be fun. And, in turn, an MMORPG's world should still be interesting, intriguing, worth exploring, and satisfying even if you take out the "Massive".
After all, genres were made by games that were great and just happened to have unique features on them (Rogue-like, for example), not the other way around ("Games make the genres, genres don't make the games").
Again, it's my opinion. But it's that opinion that makes me enjoy this game so much.

Certainly not disagreeing with any vets.
But I do hope vets see that they should be proud of the game for more than just its community.
But if the community is all this game can be weighed by in one's standards... then it truly is sad at how empty and changed this all is.

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EDIT: Additionally, the only communities I've ever really been chest-deep close to were online forums. And certainly that after things have changed, they're never quite the same and it's a tad distressing.
However, as someone who has "returned" more than once to forums that have been "dead and dying" for over 10 years... I can say that while things aren't the same, and one can't look at them with fresh eyes after all the changes, what made the forums still worth going to was what we (the small, small few that remained) made of it.
Gone may the godly days be when clans formed, when the sites had myspace-esque profile pages, when it had functioning online radios, when they had a working trading post, and etc... but the conversations and the silly fun made within a well-made standard forum is what kept it fun and satisfying to return to.

Same goes for MMOs, I believe. Wonderland Online has a lot going for it.
I've tried out over 30 other MMORPGs in the past few weeks... and COULD NOT, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, get into them even if I was new to them. This one is solid. And that's why we enjoy it.

Congratulations to the game itself. And I hope maybe one day new life will be breathed into it (it'd be sad to see it go - as I'll be stuck with the other irritatingly-unplayable low-spec MMORPGs).

(Back to trying to farm Clay out of these Godforsaken snails...)

Last edited Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 7:45pm by AiRorel

That's a nice perspective to it, and I love this game. I truly do..

I look at the forum multiple times a day (spam prevention mostly) even though I've been gone for years.. My boyfriend wants to return to the game with me because it's such an activity filled game.. We met each other there, too.

But the thing is. Later on you're gonna need help and no one is gonna be around to help you. Like now you could probably burst if you had help with gs and had weights

Most mmorpgs now (gw2, ESO, pokemon online versions, popular stuff) aren't as co-op as this game and it's more like singleplayer online, it's a curse and a blessing

Two major things that killed this game is the P2W factor, and everyone just stopped helping others, basically. So be glad you've arrived at the end essentially.

Anyway, Welcome and good luck! Plenty of info here and we're always willing to answer questions

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Just to clarify something, I never said the game itself is bad. The game can stand by itself, and like you said, it's very good, which is why I'm still here today after all these years. Even though the game itself may be good, what made it even BETTER was the community. So, in other words, I don't mean that without community it's bad. I meant that with community it was even better. Like Vampire said, you will eventually need higher level help. I know, from experience, that trying to grind your way to the top will take a very long time, years even. This game was pretty much built so that receiving help from others was a natural thing. Of course, corruption happens. Now, people sell help, buy help, only play by themselves with many chars, and like you said, emphasize the "correct" way of doing a quest or the "correct" way of building a character. However, my first character had all the wrong stats and builds, and I still had fun, and I ended up making it reborn anyways, lol. Just have fun with it and learn on your own, but don't be too opposed to receiving help. It's not always a bad thing.

Lastly, as a vet, I definitely AM proud about this game, not just because of the communities. So, don't get me wrong. Just saying, the game itself may be temporarily fun, but playing with others will build memories that last a very long time. Even you said that you're playing with your friends, imagine playing that alone, with none of your friends. See? In your own way, you and your friends are building your own community. That's kind of what it's all about~ ^^