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Sat, 12 Jul 2014, 6:00am #1
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So, I've realized one flaw about my team that prohibits me from ever really doing hard quests, I don't have an Earth Mage. I don't have stone walls or terrafications to help me survive. My team is literally made of 1 wind knight, 1 half tank water wit, 1 fire wit, 1 half tank fire killer.
Recently I've also started looking at both my half tank fire killer which never does enough damage, and my fire wit who is only really there to hf my fire killer after he hf's his pet niss. I decided to make a True Damage Based Fire Killer for both quests and as a burst slave. This also got me thinking about the idea of my new fire killer not being able to survive the onslaught of hard quests. So I looked into making a good team and a wind is never the most valuable, in fact, most people on wlo have 1 earth, 1 water and 2 fire teams to do quests. But I also thought about what kind of earth I wanted. Like I said, my fire killer doesn't do enough damage and my fire wit is useless except for hf, getting past stone walls, and mob killing (Blaze Beating). So, I though that if I replaced my fire killer, I would need another half tank, so maybe I would go with a tank/sealer earth priest. I chose priest because I also needed a character that wouldn't get sealed so much but it also meant not as much sealing. But then I thought, what if I took off my fire wit, then I would need an Earth Wit to make up for the magic damage but my fire wit was one of my only other characters that wouldn't really get sealed all that often so my earth might get sealed often.

So, I need help deciding and planning. What should I make? An Earth Wit or Earth Priest? And if I do make one, which character should be replaced? my support fire wit or half tank fire killer?

I used a calculator and looked at the stats of a lvl 100 reborn of both Earth Priest and Wit, how I would make them anyways.
BTW: These stats are without any equips except a +60 cape cuz I'm only gonna burst them to 180 then reborn and train to lvl 100 after.

Earth Priest:
LV: 100
ATK: 280 STR: 0
DEF: 870 CON: 200
MAT: 810 INT: 265
MDF: 738 WIS: 80
SPD: 428 AGI: 60

Earth Wit
LV: 100
ATK: 280 STR: 0
DEF: 782 CON: 150
MAT: 1083 INT: 325
MDF: 594 WIS: 70
SPD: 428 AGI: 60

That's pretty much what their stats would be like with just the +60 capes. So, with all this, which earth should I make? A tanky/sealing one, or a sealing/support one?

Give me your opinion, even if you think I should go with an Earth Seer, cuz I have thought about it.


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Sat, 12 Jul 2014, 8:36am #2
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Cut that wis off the earth wit to.. 49? I think. To what you need for terra (it says in your skill tree). I'd say you would also needa bit more agi even if they aren't seers.. But well, I say you go wit (Unless you are gonna do quests like venus/fb, where the mobs use revive).In my opinion wits are better becouse of the JS and the bonus m. atk.

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Sat, 12 Jul 2014, 12:04pm #3
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You're right about that but I do wanna let you know that I have a water wit so he already has the JS part handled, but another one would be good too.


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Sun, 13 Jul 2014, 9:00pm #4
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What's goin on? No one is responding to anything, so little people are coming on.


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Sun, 13 Jul 2014, 9:48pm #5
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Why not make a earth knight mage?

The last char.

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The only downside is you're gonna have to rb it early so you won't get a high cape but if you already have wit JS, a earth knight mage would help with seals, sealing and stopping seals.

Of course you don't need the agi, either, but my earth was CP/high end quest built.

Edit: I should reinstall the game, eat all my caps, and never touch it again. Just to see what level I'll get to. :p

Last edited Sun, 13 Jul 2014, 9:53pm by Vampire


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They must be drunk since they are part liquor and I DON'T even want to know what the hard tissue is referring too so lets just say that's their bones, obviously. Since my mind may have been thinking of something else

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Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 2:46pm #6
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You're build is pretty good and I like the idea, but I'd like to try risky setups after I have an official team. I like the idea a lot but its seems to be somewhat of a gamble. Plus, the Matk seems to be a little bit down, but i guess that's just your build to fit your own style.


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Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 9:44pm #7
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Well, you would have to rb it early or else put the points into con/agi/wis and I believe my earth was rebirth at 140 or something.

But as you level you can just add int to it so the matk wouldn't be that bad after awhile.


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They must be drunk since they are part liquor and I DON'T even want to know what the hard tissue is referring too so lets just say that's their bones, obviously. Since my mind may have been thinking of something else

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Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 10:39pm #8
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Wait, so I kinda wanna know why I have to rb early for earth knight.

Also, I recently read on many websites and even on the forums here that WIS has nothing to do with dodging seals. It apparently is for resisting them, so by that logic I might not want the earth priest anymore, but that also gets me to think about some quests and challenges. I'm thinking about CP and FB. I heard that there is revive enemies for FB but idk about CP. I just want a good team to do a lot of the good quests in wlo, especially RB and JS so I won't have to pay others to do it for me. So my favor is leaning towards Earth Wit and Earth Knight but Earth Priest is on the side now. I'm leaning more to Wit until I find out why you need to RB early with Earth Knight. If you could answer this Vampire that'd be great.


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Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 11:30pm #9
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To pick a earth knight mage you'd need equal str and int (basically 7 str 7 int), so you can pick knight and scroll str off to int.

If you want to go with a good build for end-game (if you wanna call it that) quests It'll be an earth knight mage.

long story short: can't pick str based class with tons of int.


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They must be drunk since they are part liquor and I DON'T even want to know what the hard tissue is referring too so lets just say that's their bones, obviously. Since my mind may have been thinking of something else

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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 2:53am #10
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Wait, then can't you just save all your points and not spend them until you RB? That works right? And then after you RB you can go and spend the points?


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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 3:11am #11
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No, it won't let you rb unless you spend your points.


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They must be drunk since they are part liquor and I DON'T even want to know what the hard tissue is referring too so lets just say that's their bones, obviously. Since my mind may have been thinking of something else

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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 3:50am #12
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darn... well....
I guess I'm just gonna go with a good Earth Wit. If it has high INT it'll be hard to seal and if I give it at least 200 CON, it'll be able to survive most quests and help me win.

Wait... What about an earth seer? That's kinda like Earth Knight right? w/o the JS of course.


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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 8:04pm #13
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You won't need an earth knight.
You have a wind knight, so you won't need to JS I guess. Then i'd go for seer (becouse you can get a good cape, and I think that seer js *de-seals*?).
But yes, you know what they say, if you can't pick one.. then go for random! o3o.
Consider wits for better seals, seers for faster ones (+supper effectivenes in CP! :D).

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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 9:11pm #14
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Well...I guess I'm just gonna go with an Earth Wit since its the most simple and beneficial to my team. Also because I'm not really doing CP yet, or not ready to do it yet so I'm just gonna stick with something that'll help me out in the long run.

Here's how I'm gonna build my Earth Wit up to lvl 180:
ATK: 253 STR: 0
DEF: 818 CON: 200
MAT: 702 INT: 225
MDF: 528 WIS: 60
SPD: 396 AGI: 60

Tell me if this is a good build for an Earth Wit.


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Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 9:24pm #15
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I think I told you to lower the wis xD.
I'd go for 0/180/250/49/66 (Am I right? Well the point was lowering the wis to 49, getting 20 con to int and then 5 wis to int then the the to agi :P)
Confused? Of course.
Just stay at 49 wis and put the rest on int/agi.

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Wed, 16 Jul 2014, 6:13am #16
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ah of course, but what about the sp in battle? I won't have enough considering that I'm gonna let my Earth and Water be the FBer's. At least I think I won't have enough. But ya, I get your point. I'll make it like yours cuz it seems to be a good setup.


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Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 12:56am #17
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Ya, I tested out the stats and I like them, thanks for the stat build Neon! :)
But now I have one more issue: What equips should I give her, and yes its a female Earth Wit.

I want something that's beneficial but still looks kinda cool in a way. I'll try on some equips myself but for the most part, what equips should I have to make her a good Earth Sealer/Half Tank?


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Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 8:39am #18
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No problem :33. But well, you don't really need 2 FBers. if you have 2.. then your team might as well kill 1 of them, then the water/earth seal and repeat, saves SP xDD.

Er.. well I wrote a really long post about this.. but you see... <<There was an error.>>. Soooo fml.
I'll try to make it shorter :P. Anyway it really deppends by the amount you can spend xD.
Hat: Bead torque or Silvery Star. Bead torque looks better with the rest of the things I say. It has 2-3 m. atk less then silvery star, not an accurate number, but if you dont have a silvery star yet get a bead torque, it's just not worth the struggling.

Gloves: Demonia gloves i'd say, they look good with everything with has a piece of yellow in them and (I think, ain't sure) they are the best in-game? I don't really know xx.

Outfit: A WDA, or a lord gown if you can't afford a dragoon's battlerobe or a polar ultima, dragoon's battlerobe is so adorable and the polar ultima is the highest m. atk item.

Shoes: Sky boots or cat claw boots. Clear cat claw boots are better then clear sky boots, but with neat spars, sky boots will be better, becouse cat claw boots get spars:2.

As for the weapon.. i'll let you choose ^.^.
Shining staff is the best pure m. atk one I think, and if you want a cheap alternative, thut's wand. Or a cute one, the little golden rings or the golden staffs from IM. If not go for a higher m. atk one or a SPD one. GL <3

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Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 11:54pm #19
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I love the look of your reccommended items but ya, I don't have that stuff and its incredibly hard to get them now.


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Fri, 18 Jul 2014, 8:43am #20
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Well, I think you can compound a bead torque after a few tries (If you have superior, that's it). If it's too hard, I remember there was a compound of instance items for a silvery torque. i'll look for it.

For gloves you can try giant demon gloves. They give 22 m. atk I think, and they are incredibly easy to get by hawaii mats (just low chance xD).

As for the outfit, I think you could buy/compound a WDA or maybe a lord gown.
In leo a WDA is 5m, so I guess it's about that or less in Taurus. Don't know about lord gown through.

Sky boots again are incredibly easy to get xc.

And for the weapon, you could get Thut's wand or an eagle wand if you can make/buy one. Should be fine. If you can't get there either tell me and i'll see what I can think at ;D

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