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Sat, 08 Jun 2013, 4:32am #1
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Im new to bursting, idk where to go, ive been doing senior beetles but I combo only so much. I also don't do much damage as I only have one fire fighter, the other is a fire mage, which kinda sucks... and Ive been using sheep because I cant really get any horses/cows without being partially murdered.
So im lvl 60-75, have 1 water, 1 wind, and 2 fires. Would appreciate your help very very much! :)

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Sat, 08 Jun 2013, 1:51pm #2
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make sure all fire have 0 spd and u can try bursting at the rain forest frog outside of holy village.


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Sat, 08 Jun 2013, 9:19pm #3
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depending on your hp is where you go and if you are going to go afk for long time or not
first make sure you have lots of sp food for all your char
like it was mentioned already make sure they have 0 spd thats because is easier to combo w/0spd although you can still combo up to 30 and sometimes more
bursting with wind element things would be best if you go afk and you just want to stay in one spot because fires do more dmg on winds
you can go to wind cyruss in south island, wind chicken lol, wind jelly, and there is a spot with two wind sheep in south island and theres also wind beatles but I forgot where exactly..somewhere in south island
if you burst with wind cyruss you can burst till cows are like lvl 20-30 and still get good exp so if you get two cow/sheep then it shouldnt be that hard and personally I think you should isolate your burst focus on your fires and put either leave your water and wind alone till your close to finishing your fires or put your water to burst with high fires sometimes they are looking for water and ppl in general dont tend to discriminate against waters ..if they do is because they are ignorant or plain stupid because water lvl doesnt really matter..but once your fires are like lvl 140~ish you can burst with you water and wind and it would go by a lot faster than if you burst them all at same time or lvl your water and your fires and then when your done get cuss and cuss burst with your wind or normal burst get another fire and burst as usual but instead of water use your wind..or just pay someone to lvl some of your char or all of them seems thats what most new ppl do now

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Sun, 09 Jun 2013, 12:25pm #4
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Hi frostblue!

The title of your topic seems a bit confusing to me.. do you need help to burst your chars? OR do you need help with how to burst your chars effectively?

Anyway, as already mentioned,
the SPD of your 2 fires must be 0 if possible so they can combo.
You can use weights (Example: -99T, -200T, -400T, -600T) from Item Mall to reduce their spd to 0.

You can also use a Shadow Pestle (SPD -99) and Iron Ball (-40) to reduce the spd. Those two items can be used for your lvl.

Are you doing the right bursting pattern for fires?
Your 2 fires have to be the last 2 chars to move in every round.
This is how to do it:
1st round: Slowdown
2nd round: Poison Spell
3rd round: Hot-fire Attack (Goddess Skill) on yourself
4th round: Your Char's Strongest Damaging Skill
5th round (on second enemy): Your Char's Strongest Damaging Skill

If it is a fire mage, the best MATK skill is Fire Combo Beating.
If it is a fire melee, the best ATK skill is Hagendis Hit.

Remember: You can do more damage if those skills are MAXED. So take time to train those skills to burst better.

If you don't have those skills yet, learn them by adding more INT for your fire mage, and by adding more STR and at least 4 AGI on your fire melee.

Your water should be the fastest in your burst team. Meaning, that char has the highest SPD and moves first every time you fight.
If your water is not the fastest, try getting equips that add to SPD or you can add some AGI on your water but that is all up to you.

This is the burst pattern for water:
1st round: Shrink (Goddess Skill)
2nd round: Water Shield on PET
3rd round: Freezing Spell
4th round: Sleep Spell (if you don't have this spell, just use Shrink for this round)
5th round (on second enemy): Shrink (Goddess Skill)

You can learn Sleep Spell when your WIS is at least 47 and
your INT is at least 2.

For your wind, that char should be the second fastest char in your burst team.
If your wind is faster than your water, try to equip it with -SPD equips (Example: Iron Ball, Shadow Pestle, Etc.) until it is slower than your water. But your wind has to be faster than your 2 fires.

In my own experience, I think this pattern gives the most exp for a wind in a burst team of 2 fires, 1 water, 1 wind (The exp is just close to the exp your water gets)
1st round: Shield Smash
2nd round: Speed Up on PET
3rd round: Coma Spell
4th round: Cord Spell
5th round (on second enemy): Shield Smash (if you manual burst to save SP) OR Cord Spell (if you're using E-Remote)

It's better to put the Cord Spell on the 4th and/or 5th round because it saves SP (only costs 47 SP) instead of Coma Spell which costs 81 SP.

For the burst pets you are using,
1st round: Defend
2nd round: Defend
3rd round: Defend
4th round: Normal Attack
5th round (on second monster): Normal Attack

Normal Attack is just clicking the enemy and your pet will attack it without any skill.

Your burst pet does not necessarily have to be a Cow or a Sheep.
Just catch a burst pet that is more convenient and easy for you.
But I suggest that you get a pet that will not be easily killed by the monster you're fighting so that it will survive to the last round.

Example: If you burst on Wind Jellyfish, you can use a Fire Jellyfish as burst pet. Something like that.

Catching a low-level burst pet is pretty easy. :D
Your fire can use Poison Spell on the monster, and when its HP is less than half, you can try catching it already.

For the burst spots! If you have enough SP food, you can choose to burst on beetles in South Island by auto-moving there.

The exp will not be as high as the exp you get from bursting on wind mobs because the beetles have no element and your damage on them is not as high as when you do damage on a wind mob.

Take this example: In my burst team (with 2 fires lvl 180+ as damage dealer), my water and wind/earth/fire char gets 18k-22k exp from bursting in beetles. But when I burst them on Wind Jellyfish, they get 20k-26k exp. These are the exp they normally get without any of the fires doing crit damage and on a day without 2x exp event. See the difference?

Here are my suggestions for burst spots:

You can choose to sit on one burst spot, preferably somewhere with a wind mob, and just wait for the monster to respawn and then burst. You can regain some SP while sitting and waiting for the monster to appear again. There are usually two monsters for burst spots like these.

The places are:
- Wind Chicken in North Island (somewhere near Welling Village)
- Wind Jellyfish in North Island (it's in the beach at the right side of the map) *This one is my favorite~ :>
- Wind Frog in South Island (just outside Holy Village)
- Wind Bee in South Island (go farther down the place where you can see Cows and Sheep)
- Wind Cirrus in South Island (find it on the Second Map of South Island)

There is also the Wind Sheep, mentioned in the previous post but I haven't tried there.

Note: The names of the monsters I've mentioned are not the exact names of those monsters. I just used those names to specify the element.

There are also spots in which the monster respawns fast but sadly, it's not a wind. The exact name of the monster is: Huge Jellyfish, located in North Island by the beach.

The amount of exp depends on the amount of damage to the enemy and the number of assist skills your chars used during the fight. So the lvl of the monster you kill is not that important. I'd prefer low-level monsters over high-level monsters.

Your fires can do more damage if they have high MATK/ATK. To increase MATK/ATK, add more points to your char's INT/STR, respectively. Also, equips that add MATK/ATK are helpful.

These are all I can share right now. I hope it's useful.

Well, if you have the resources (money or gold) to buy normal burst or cuss burst, then you wouldn't need to learn all of these. XD

If you want to try cuss burst, first of all, you need an RB Wit char with Wit JS to do cuss burst. I think your char is not prepared for that yet so I don't really suggest it for now.

Last edited Sun, 09 Jun 2013, 12:42pm by superficial19


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Sun, 09 Jun 2013, 9:24pm #5
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That's a mouthful. Friend of mine used to burst in La Tim cave back in the days. Don't know if he still does but it's nice there, little lag and a box you can open every few minutes.


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Tue, 11 Jun 2013, 11:23pm #6
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Sorry, ya, I wanted some advice, I have alts so I can burst by myself, I just needed the right info. I found out I didn't have GS on my mage, and she still had terrible equips. My only questions:
1. So its ok to use beating skills? I heard that you had to use the "hit" ones?
2. And which would be best to be my wit, the mage or fighter?
Thanks! :)

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Wed, 12 Jun 2013, 1:22am #7
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The "hit" ones are typically the strong single target skills. The beatings are usually double target skills, depending on your element and attack preference (melee/mage) that is.


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It's quite fascinating. The way people speak. The way people act. The way people just...live. People are different. You see hundreds of cultures all over the world. Some differ by a small percentage. Others can be completely the opposite of another. We think what we think. We do what we do. This all pertains to the function of the brain. Thinking. Then the possible question forms from the confines of some minds. "What if.....?" Yes indeed, what if? What if I did this? What if I did that? How would this benefit me? How would this put me at a disadvantage? What is the purpose of this? The human mind is a very complex thing. It could form millions of thoughts in just one single second without the owner even realizing all but..one. And what is this one thought? This one outlier in the mathematical functionality of the brain? This is what we think. Out of all the possible thoughts, this is the one thought we think about at the present moment. And what is the result of this thought? Success. Failure. Love. Hate. Passion. Determination. Character. Personality. Actions....Death.

Watch your thoughts.
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Watch your actions.
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Wed, 12 Jun 2013, 3:59am #8
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It's true, beating skills attack more than 1 target and usually don't combo with other skills. The Fire Combo Beating skill is rather a special case because it can combo with Hagendis Hit and attacks only 1 target.

I see others use Fire Stone Hit as well for fire mages. It's up to you. (:


---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
My chars on Leo:

Spoiler:

Main Team:
Raye99 - Lv 96 RB Fire Killer
Trista99 - Lv 96 RB Fire Wit
Hotaru99 - Lv 94 RB Water Seer
Serena99 - Lv 193 Non-RB Earth Priest

\(>∀<)/

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Wed, 12 Jun 2013, 5:16am #9
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Ah, thanks so much!

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Wed, 12 Jun 2013, 5:10pm #10
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superficial19 wrote:

It's true, beating skills attack more than 1 target and usually don't combo with other skills. The Fire Combo Beating skill is rather a special case because it can combo with Hagendis Hit and attacks only 1 target.

I see others use Fire Stone Hit as well for fire mages. It's up to you. (:

I've tested it and Fire Combo Beating deals a little more damage than Fire Stone Hit. Saves more Sp as well, depends on your preference I guess, I tend to use Fire Combo Hit occasionally.

Also, most beating skills will attack 1 single target. The only exceptions I can think of are: Cyclone Beating, Water Pole Beating, Thunder Beating, Blaze Beating, Fire Blast Beating, Fire Ball Beating, Sword Awn Beating, Five Star Beating, Hagendis Beating, Fire Stone Beating, Rock Elf Beating, Rock Fall Beating, and Rock Blast Beating.


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Take them out with Love. One by one.

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It's quite fascinating. The way people speak. The way people act. The way people just...live. People are different. You see hundreds of cultures all over the world. Some differ by a small percentage. Others can be completely the opposite of another. We think what we think. We do what we do. This all pertains to the function of the brain. Thinking. Then the possible question forms from the confines of some minds. "What if.....?" Yes indeed, what if? What if I did this? What if I did that? How would this benefit me? How would this put me at a disadvantage? What is the purpose of this? The human mind is a very complex thing. It could form millions of thoughts in just one single second without the owner even realizing all but..one. And what is this one thought? This one outlier in the mathematical functionality of the brain? This is what we think. Out of all the possible thoughts, this is the one thought we think about at the present moment. And what is the result of this thought? Success. Failure. Love. Hate. Passion. Determination. Character. Personality. Actions....Death.

Watch your thoughts.
They become words.
Watch your words.
They become actions.
Watch your actions.
They become habit.
Watch your habits.
They become personality.
Watch your personality.
It becomes your destiny.

-Lao Tzu

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Fri, 14 Jun 2013, 11:26pm #11
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Another question, been bursting all day :)
So any pet will work correct? Ive been using sheep, but im getting annoyed because it takes like forever to catch them, and they usually kill whatever pet I bring in to help catch them...because it takes forever -_-
What are some other good ones, and both my fires are at 0 speed.

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Fri, 14 Jun 2013, 11:48pm #12
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Sorry, I forgot. Im getting around 20k on a 2x weekend when my sheep are lvl 1, and by the time they hit 25, its around 10k... is this good or bad?

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Sat, 15 Jun 2013, 1:34am #13
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u can use any catchable pets but i suggest fire types such as fire fros or fire beetles.but any catchable pet will work as long as speed is under 100.


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Mon, 17 Jun 2013, 1:55pm #14
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@pswk2
Wow, you really specified the beatings with more than 1 target. That's nice.

frostblue wrote:

Sorry, I forgot. Im getting around 20k on a 2x weekend when my sheep are lvl 1, and by the time they hit 25, its around 10k... is this good or bad?

'To each his own'

If you normally get 10k exp without 2x exp event, then getting 10k exp on a 2x would be a good sign to change your burst pets. That's what I usually do. Others may have their own methods and may differ from mine.

On double exp event, I change pets when the exp of the char I'm bursting is the about the same exp he/she gets without 2x exp.
I think the 2x exp event would be a waste if the exp they get will be the same as when there's no 2x exp.

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I'm amazed how people can burst for a long time until their pets reach lvl 20+ 8o

The highest lvl I could allow my burst pet to reach is lvl 13. I'd prefer if my chars get bigger exp so I get new pets often from time to time.


---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
My chars on Leo:

Spoiler:

Main Team:
Raye99 - Lv 96 RB Fire Killer
Trista99 - Lv 96 RB Fire Wit
Hotaru99 - Lv 94 RB Water Seer
Serena99 - Lv 193 Non-RB Earth Priest

\(>∀<)/

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