im in gemini and i was wondering a good price for goblin halberd thnx for ur replies in advance

http://wlodb.com/items/1692

In Taurus for Goblin Halberd:
Rank » 23
Level » 46
ATK » +46

Average price: 48668 golds (with range price: 40k - 55k golds)

(Simple calculate: level x rank x stat)

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 12:17pm by Hugomka

LOLS~ so exp ?

it oni 18-25k+ in aries .. =x

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wow u guys got high prices i just seen 1 in gem for 15k

i appreciate your replies thnx

so cheap, what is your economy formula?

In Taurus:
Equipments: level x rank x stats = price

Stats:
ATK: ATK*1
DEF: DEF*1
MAT: MAT*1
MDF: MDF*1
SPD: SPD*2

For example:
Cross Pike, level 72, rank 36, ATK+72: 72x36x72 = 186624 golds
The range price is often between 8%-10% higher or lower, for Cross Pike: 170k - 200k golds.

Jade Wand, level 58, rank 29, MAT+29, SPD+29: 58x29x(29*1+29*2) = 58x29x116 = 195112 golds with the range price: 180k - 210k golds.

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 12:14pm by Hugomka

well i never thought there was a formula im not sure if anyone uses formula cause ppl sell the same thing here for this and maybe 10k less over there i just try to find what ever1 sells for and go a little lower

i started making blessed bows bout 3 weeks ago the price for them was8k now the price has dropped all the way down to like anywere from 3k-5.5k

On Libra the Goblin Halberd is around 15k-20k, depending on the seller.

Wow, never knew there is a formula for the prices.XD

By the way, what is the price for the White Armor on your guys servers? I saw it for 500k.
http://wlodb.com/items/2718

Edit: I forgot: Does anyone has a picture of how it looks on a male character?

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 12:51pm by NoHeart

on gemini never seen that armor srry cant be of help

took a look at ur link and im guessing it would be the same if not up 750k

Hm... I see, I found another formula, but a little difficult to calculate.
You must to know what the products you need to make a Goblin Halberd.

Goblin Halberd <- Skeleton Iron Sword R19 + Vertical Wing R21
Skeleton Iron Sword <- Iron Net Boots R17 + Wolf Tooth R20 + Iron Net Boots R17

Iron Net Boots can be bought in Cairo, Egypt with price of 610 golds.
Wolf Tooth can be obtained from Snow Wolfs in South Pole.
Vertical Wing can be made from Bench Saw and 2 Oak Woods in 6 minutes.

2x Iron Net Boots + travel expanse = 610*2 + 1200 = 2420 golds
Wolf Tooth + travel expanse = 1000 + 600 = 1600 golds
Vertical Wing = 30*2 + 6*100 = 660 golds

2420+1600+660 = 4680 for materials.
2x compound to Goblin Halberd: 4680 * 2 = 9360
For failrate risk guarantee, often doubled = 9360 x 2 = 18720 golds.

So the price of Goblin Halberd is 18720 golds with the range price: 17k-20k golds.

While making goblin halberd, can get other rank 21,22 iron can can sell pretty well, so goblin halberd can sell at that price ... In Leo, goblin halberd range from 10~15k. If with the formula level x rank x stats = price ,for cross pike, I think no 1 will make for sell anymore =_="

Hugomka wrote:

so cheap, what is your economy formula?

In Taurus:
Equipments: level x rank x stats = price

Stats:
ATK: ATK*1
DEF: DEF*1
MAT: MAT*1
MDF: MDF*1
SPD: SPD*2

For example:
Cross Pike, level 72, rank 36, ATK+72: 72x36x72 = 186624 golds
The range price is often between 8%-10% higher or lower, for Cross Pike: 170k - 200k golds.

Jade Wand, level 58, rank 29, MAT+29, SPD+29: 58x29x(29*1+29*2) = 58x29x116 = 195112 golds with the range price: 180k - 210k golds.

WOW !! den its cheap dude !!

cross pike for tht price ..

i dono how they set de price ..

maybe based on de lv and hw hard to gain it .. =.="

cross pike its around 700k+ in aries ..

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700k ... sure is cheap. Wonder y goblin more expensive there.

If i put prices, i just look at
1) other shop's their prices
2) how many alchemy books etc i had to use (expences)
3) the sale value (example: SPD gear sells very well=> higher price then for example mixed stat items)
4)the rareness of the item

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Cross Pike is around 2m in Leo...

Your initial formula of: level * rank * stats = price
fails to account for rarity, difficulty, materials involved.

Items like the Sunny Doll shoot way up in price because so few people have/are-able to make them... aka... rarity. Same with the Cross Pike.

The best way to know a price of an item is explore the market often enough to have a good grasp on the server prices. That isn't terribly easy on larger servers like Aries, but that's just how it goes.

Goblin Halberd is around 10-18k in Leo. -.-

EDIT: When you're on the cutting edge of Alch, and no one else is selling whatever you are selling, try to think of the price as whatever you would be willing to buy it for. If you're stingy like me, judge it by it's stats and the stats of other items with relatively equivalent stats.

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 7:34pm by KaozReaper

The calculation of the price for Cross Pike

The recipe for a Cross Pike:

Shopkeeper:
- Sea Armor R18 - Cairo, Egypt (660g) - 4x
- Copper Crest R18 - Cairo, Egypt (660g) - 1x
- Demon Gloves R18 - Cairo, Egypt (660g) - 1x
- Fine Golden Rose R18 - Hawaii (1500g) - 1x
- Refined Gold R18 - Hawaii (4000g) - 1x
- Wolf Bracers R16 - Thailand (560g) - 2x

Monster drop:
- Wolf Tooth - South Pole, Snow Wolf - 2x
- Alchemy Book 1 - level 55-70 - 1x
- Alchemy Book 2 - level 70-90 - 1x
- Alchemy Book 3 - level 90-110 - 2x

Collection
- Black Jade R25 - Ice Berg, collection - 5x

Manufacture
- Vertical Wing R21 - Bench Saw, 2*Oak woods, 6 min - 1x
- Propeller R20 - manufacture Rope Saw, 2*Oak woods, 4 min - 1x

The sub-prices from recipe:
Shopkeepers: Egypt(660*4+660+660+1200)+Hawaii(1500+4000+600)+Thailand(560*2+600) = 5160+6100+1720 = 12,980 golds
Monster drops: 1000*2 + 40k + 60k + 80k*2 = 182,000 golds
Collection: 2500*5 = 12,500 golds
Manufacture: 30*2+100*6 + 30*2+100*4 = 660 + 460 = 1,120 golds

Sub-Total: 12,980+182,000+12,500+1,120 = 208,600

Compounds
Compound in Egypt:
2x Sea Armor + Wolf Tooth + Sea Armor = Skeleton Steel Sword
1x Copper Crest + Demon Gloves = Bronze Boots

Compound in Hawaii:
1x Fine Golden Rose + Refined Gold = Golden Qi Pao

Compound in Thailand:
1x Wolf Bracers + Wolf Bracers = Dark Helmet

Compound in Ice Berg:
1x Black Jade + Black Jade = Emerald Necklace

Further compound:
1x Golden Qi Pao + Skeleton Steel Sword = Metal Gown
1x Bronze Boots + Black Jade = Long Copper Boots
1x Skeleton Steel Sword + Vertical Wing = Invisible Knife
1x Dark Helmet + Propeller = Titanium Sword
1x Titanium Sword + Emerald Necklace = Jade Helmet
1x Jade Helmet + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 3 = Black Wand
1x Invisible Knife + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 1 = Blue Steel Armor
1x Long Copper Boots + Metal Gown + Alchemy Book 2 = Bronze Armor

Final Compound:
1x Black Wand + Blue Steel Armor + Bronze Armor + Alchemy Book 3

Total Price
Compounds to get Cross Pike: 15x
and the failrate risk guarantee: 2x

208,600 x 15 x 2 = 6,258,000 golds, with the price range: 5,640,000 - 6,880,000 golds

Hahahaha, too expensive 0_o

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 8:57pm by Hugomka

Hugomka wrote:

Compounds
Compound in Egypt:
2x Sea Armor + Wolf Tooth + Sea Armor = Skeleton Steel Sword 80%
1x Copper Crest + Demon Gloves = Bronze Boots 75%

Compound in Hawaii:
1x Fine Golden Rose + Refined Gold = Golden Qi Pao 90%

Compound in Thailand:
1x Wolf Bracers + Wolf Bracers = Dark Helmet 20%

Compound in Ice Berg:
1x Black Jade + Black Jade = Emerald Necklace 40%

Further compound:
1x Golden Qi Pao + Skeleton Steel Sword = Metal Gown 100%
1x Bronze Boots + Black Jade = Long Copper Boots 50%
1x Skeleton Steel Sword + Vertical Wing = Invisible Knife 10% jump4...
1x Dark Helmet + Propeller = Titanium Sword 100%
1x Titanium Sword + Emerald Necklace = Jade Helmet 30%
1x Jade Helmet + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 3 = Black Wand 95% USE A BOOK1
1x Invisible Knife + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 1 = Blue Steel Armor 80% or R30 Steel >.>
1x Long Copper Boots + Metal Gown + Alchemy Book 2 = Bronze Armor
Tsk tsk!! Long Copper Boots are R26 Copper! Screw the Metal Gown, make a Rainy Doll! Metal Gown + Black Jade + Metal Gown = Rainy Doll 90% - Long Copper Boots + Rainy Doll + Book1 = Bronze Armor 100% or higher rank Bronze ... save on the book man...

Final Compound:
1x Black Wand + Blue Steel Armor + Bronze Armor + Alchemy Book 3
Dude, it's a jump7... use a book4

Compounds to get Cross Pike: 15x
and the failrate risk guarantee: 2x <<< there's no weighting on that. You're doubling the book cost for the whole thing. You're also multiplying the whole cost of all the materials by 15... (books... included...)

208,600 x 15 x 2 = 6,258,000 golds.

Hahahaha, too expensive 0_o

Color added by me. Percentage chances are a best guess estimate based on MY alchemy skills and experience.

Point:
1. All of those recipes are primary alchemy, not junior or superior.
2. I bet you will try 30x times before you succeed to get a Cross Pike

Now, I m following your post and I'm guessing you did every percentage for 10 try-outs, so 100% = 1x try-out and 10% = 10 try-outs:

Compounds
Compound in Egypt:
3x Sea Armor + Wolf Tooth + Sea Armor = Skeleton Steel Sword 80%
(660+1000+660)*3 = 6960
1x Copper Crest + Demon Gloves = Bronze Boots 75%
(660+660)*3,5 = 4620

Compound in Hawaii:
2x Fine Golden Rose + Refined Gold = Golden Qi Pao 90%
(1500+4000)*2 = 11,000

Compound in Thailand:
1x Wolf Bracers + Wolf Bracers = Dark Helmet 20%
(560+560)*9 = 10,080

Compound in Ice Berg:
1x Black Jade + Black Jade = Emerald Necklace 40%
(2500+2500)*7 = 35,000

Further compound:
2x Golden Qi Pao + Skeleton Steel Sword = Metal Gown 100%
(11,000+6960)*1 = 17,960
1x Bronze Boots + Black Jade = Long Copper Boots 50%
(4620+2500)*6 = 42,720
1x Skeleton Steel Sword + Vertical Wing = Invisible Knife 10%
(6960+30*2+100*6)*10 = 76,200
1x Dark Helmet + Propeller = Titanium Sword 100%
(10,080+30*2+100*4)*1 = 10,540
1x Titanium Sword + Emerald Necklace = Jade Helmet 30%
(10,540+35,000)*8 = 45,540
1x Metal Gown + Black Jade + Metal Gown = Rainy Doll 90%
(17,960+2500+17,960) = 38,420
1x Jade Helmet + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 3 = Black Wand 95%
(45,540+2500+80,000)*1,5 = 128,040
1x Invisible Knife + Black Jade + Alchemy Book 1 = Blue Steel Armor 80%
(76,200+2500+40,000)*3 = 118,700
Long Copper Boots + Rainy Doll + Book1 = Bronze Armor 100%
(42,720+38,420+40,000)*1 = 121,140

Final Compound:
1x Black Wand + Blue Steel Armor + Bronze Armor + Alchemy Book 3 = Cross Pike 10%
(128,040 + 118,700 + 121,140 + 80,000)*10 = 4,478,800 golds

But not very big difference, I knew 30x multiple would save a seller with his profits and no lose in money.

At least cheaper than last price. XD

And I bet if you use junior or superior alchemy the price would be much cheaper. XD

Last edited Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 11:37pm by Hugomka