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Kot Administrator Registered: May, 2010 Last visit: 4 hours ago Posts: 127	Vampire wrote: Yeah... Sorry that there's so many crap compounds that aren't verified. I was left here for the majority of the time by myself, and I didn't/don't know alchemy other than basics so I would only confirm a couple I knew, while deleting the ! or obvious fake ones/mistakes (for awhile you couldn't change the materials for compounds) Off topic: There are also a lot of items missing, but thanks to Nivle we have all the images waiting to be named and uploaded to the server, which we did send off awhile back I alssoo planned to do 'entire questline for x' posts like how I started with Kanako because the official forum guides deleted a lot, and I knew WLODB is more reliable, but.. Cutscenes made adding these items and questlines difficult because the cutscenes break my game T.T and Melone is no longer in service nor anywhere on the internet (I do have a copy of that, stat calculator and doala, though) If you still want the go forward with the guide, I can try and help out when I have free time after university, just drop me a list of things that you need, preferably discord, though PM's here would work too if you don't use discord. As for the compounds, I'll trust everyone's judgement on it and that they know how alchemy works if they report here, worst case scenario - it looks like a working compound, I'll just have to go and check it myself a few times. leopard wrote: There are so many false compounds, it is just not worth bothering to find them and remove them. Just know how compound works, which is easy, and do your thing. I personally use superior alchemy and know its order in compound. I never made a wrong compound. This entire thread was made due to someone asking where to report false/fake compounds in a bug report thread, I sifted through quite a few compounds, but obviously it's a mess to tackle and I'm not too extremely worried because as long as someone knows how alchemy works and how the jumps work, they'll have no issue differentiating a wrong compound vs a right one. funny wrote: I'm not sure if it's just me or maybe something new, but I've never had success in compounding any low rank metal items (that have ore version, like iron, tin, aluminum) into higher rank ones if I use rock-base (marble, shale, obsidian, basalt) second item. It'd always end up result in ores. I also never managed to get bluestone from compounding But I feel like I haven't do enough alchemy for both cases so i'm not sure yet. ---- offtopic: Also, how do people figure out what are the new items' base/subbase1/subbase2 etc? From what i read melone don't work anymore for that, but I can't find any discussion about how do people figure things out. Could you elaborate more? I think I may be missing something and I'm not quite understanding your issue. What recipes are you using, what alchemy do you have and how big are the rank jumps? I can't quite exactly answer the base questions, because to my knowledge most bases came from melone and the newer edition items were a wild goose chase through CHWL? (i believe, i honestly don't know as i had quit not long after the release)
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Vampire wrote:
Yeah... Sorry that there's so many crap compounds that aren't verified. I was left here for the majority of the time by myself, and I didn't/don't know alchemy other than basics so I would only confirm a couple I knew, while deleting the ! or obvious fake ones/mistakes (for awhile you couldn't change the materials for compounds)

Off topic:
There are also a lot of items missing, but thanks to Nivle we have all the images waiting to be named and uploaded to the server, which we did send off awhile back

I alssoo planned to do 'entire questline for x' posts like how I started with Kanako because the official forum guides deleted a lot, and I knew WLODB is more reliable, but.. Cutscenes made adding these items and questlines difficult because the cutscenes break my game T.T and Melone is no longer in service nor anywhere on the internet (I do have a copy of that, stat calculator and doala, though)

If you still want the go forward with the guide, I can try and help out when I have free time after university, just drop me a list of things that you need, preferably discord, though PM's here would work too if you don't use discord.

As for the compounds, I'll trust everyone's judgement on it and that they know how alchemy works if they report here, worst case scenario - it looks like a working compound, I'll just have to go and check it myself a few times.

leopard wrote:
There are so many false compounds, it is just not worth bothering to find them and remove them. Just know how compound works, which is easy, and do your thing.
I personally use superior alchemy and know its order in compound. I never made a wrong compound.

This entire thread was made due to someone asking where to report false/fake compounds in a bug report thread, I sifted through quite a few compounds, but obviously it's a mess to tackle and I'm not too extremely worried because as long as someone knows how alchemy works and how the jumps work, they'll have no issue differentiating a wrong compound vs a right one.

funny wrote:
I'm not sure if it's just me or maybe something new, but I've never had success in compounding any low rank metal items (that have ore version, like iron, tin, aluminum) into higher rank ones if I use rock-base (marble, shale, obsidian, basalt) second item. It'd always end up result in ores.

I also never managed to get bluestone from compounding

But I feel like I haven't do enough alchemy for both cases so i'm not sure yet.

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offtopic:

Also, how do people figure out what are the new items' base/subbase1/subbase2 etc? From what i read melone don't work anymore for that, but I can't find any discussion about how do people figure things out.

Could you elaborate more? I think I may be missing something and I'm not quite understanding your issue. What recipes are you using, what alchemy do you have and how big are the rank jumps?

I can't quite exactly answer the base questions, because to my knowledge most bases came from melone and the newer edition items were a wild goose chase through CHWL? (i believe, i honestly don't know as i had quit not long after the release)